Rules that are written, but not recognized

[noumpere]

You wont get a NOCSAE standard if it doesn't cover the ears (or so I've been led to believe).

 

And to cp9 -- it's your own fault for even letting it happen during the scrimmage.

[maven]

And to cp9 -- it's your own fault for even letting it happen during the scrimmage.

 

Not to pile on, but we should avidly enforce safety rules. Compare:

 

• F1 uses hybrid stance, plunks B1 in the head, B1's lawyer uncle sues the umpire and a host of others. CLAIM: umpire should not have allowed F1 to use hybrid stance. Judge laughs aloud before dismissing complaint.
• F2 uses unapproved helmet, gets hit in ear by deflected foul ball and sustains injury: F2's lawyer uncle sues the umpire and a host of others. CLAIM: umpire should not have allowed F2 to use illegal equipment. Nobody laughs; lawyers for insurance company settle for an undisclosed sum; state association revokes PU's license to avoid further liability.

Guys who ignore the jewelry rule are also liability time bombs.

[Dash Riprock]

 

Judge laughs aloud before dismissing complaint.

Except in California.

[BT_Blue]

And to cp9 -- it's your own fault for even letting it happen during the scrimmage.

 

Not to pile on, but we should avidly enforce safety rules. Compare:

 

• F1 uses hybrid stance, plunks B1 in the head, B1's lawyer uncle sues the umpire and a host of others. CLAIM: umpire should not have allowed F1 to use hybrid stance. Judge laughs aloud before dismissing complaint.
• F2 uses unapproved helmet, gets hit in ear by deflected foul ball and sustains injury: F2's lawyer uncle sues the umpire and a host of others. CLAIM: umpire should not have allowed F2 to use illegal equipment. Nobody laughs; lawyers for insurance company settle for an undisclosed sum; state association revokes PU's license to avoid further liability.

Guys who ignore the jewelry rule are also liability time bombs.

I agree. This isnt even happening in a scrimmage. Why allow it. If you do then you get the "but you allowed it before..."

You are opening yourself up to all kinds of legal issues since you decided to ignore the rules because you wanted to.

[johnnyg08]

If the goal of a scrimmage is to get better and see how guys play in live action, then all rules should (except probably substitution and courtesy runner) be enforced.

[cp9]

 

 

And to cp9 -- it's your own fault for even letting it happen during the scrimmage.

 

Not to pile on, but we should avidly enforce safety rules. Compare:

 

• F1 uses hybrid stance, plunks B1 in the head, B1's lawyer uncle sues the umpire and a host of others. CLAIM: umpire should not have allowed F1 to use hybrid stance. Judge laughs aloud before dismissing complaint.
• F2 uses unapproved helmet, gets hit in ear by deflected foul ball and sustains injury: F2's lawyer uncle sues the umpire and a host of others. CLAIM: umpire should not have allowed F2 to use illegal equipment. Nobody laughs; lawyers for insurance company settle for an undisclosed sum; state association revokes PU's license to avoid further liability.

Guys who ignore the jewelry rule are also liability time bombs.

I agree. This isnt even happening in a scrimmage. Why allow it. If you do then you get the "but you allowed it before..."

You are opening yourself up to all kinds of legal issues since you decided to ignore the rules because you wanted to.

 

I totally agree.  However there were 15 other umpires out there and I didn't get behind the dish until the 4th inning.  To be honest I didn't want to rock the boat too much.  

[Platejob29]

For anyone who has ever had the pleasure of going to a clinic or better yet umpire school that Jorge Bauza taught rules at you know some of his favorite things to say are...

 

1)"Use the rules to your advantage."

2)"Don't grab onto the wrong end of the stick."

3)"Use common sense."

4)"BOOM"

 all of these with the exception of "BOOM" usually ends with the statement "or else you're gonna have a S____house"

 

Good things to keep in mind when going over the rules and decided what to enforce, and what is a bit ridiculous and outdated.

[iankelleyumpire]

"Preventative umpiring, BOOM."

[knuckler]

How about the Nike swoosh on a pitchers glove (older gloves they were white I think, now they look like they could be a shade of gray)

[krwill96]

@Platejob29 -What about "Vamo?" that didn't make the list of Jorge's favorite sayings?

 

Obviously that doesn't apply to the thread, but in all seriousness, use common sense and fair play when applying the rules. Don't go looking for dumb infractions to show the coaches that you know the rule book and you'll be fine out there.

[johnnyg08]

Stopping the walk up music once the hitter reaches the dirt circle. 

[SteveJ]

 

Neighborhood play at 2B on a double play.

 

Maybe I don't understand the concept of this thread, but the neighborhood play will soon be a thing of the past. It should not be called in amateur ball at all, and fewer pro umpires are calling it, since they started enforcing the INT restrictions at 2B.

 

Also, I make pitchers stop in the set regardless of whether there are runners. In my experience, if they don't stop then, they won't stop with runners (and the coach will tell me that "he always does that!").

 

What are we supposed to be discussing here?

 

I think that TV is killing the "neighborhood play" at 2B. I have stopped calling it.

I am guilty of not making F1 stop when there's no runners on.  Most of the time they stop.

I have recently started calling some of my leagues younger kid's games and I have had to teach myself to call a huge strike zone, especially the high pitches...AKA "The Zone of Least Resistance". At first that caused me problems when I worked the plate in a 12U game, or two, on one day and the next day I work the plate for a HS Var or college game.

[UMP45]

Why does F1 have to stop when there are no runners on? That's NCAA. Unless you do NCAA.

[grayhawk]

Why does F1 have to stop when there are no runners on? That's NCAA. Unless you do NCAA.

This is a fed rule too. No idea why they think it's necessary. Worried about a quick pitch, perhaps?

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[Lala]

How about the Nike swoosh on a pitchers glove (older gloves they were white I think, now they look like they could be a shade of gray)

 

This is true with Rawlings too.  I don't really see how the white lettering is a distraction, its so small.     If they are distracted by that little tiny swoosh, they have very little chance of EVER hitting a big white baseball.     

[noumpere]

Why does F1 have to stop when there are no runners on? That's NCAA. Unless you do NCAA.

I don't think the pitcher needs to stop with no one on in NCAA.

[Dash Riprock]

 

Why does F1 have to stop when there are no runners on? That's NCAA. Unless you do NCAA.

I don't think the pitcher needs to stop with no one on in NCAA.

 

Correct.  It is one of those "only in FED" rules.

[PGOLDEN88]

Anyone read OBR? 1.01 is outdated. Nine players each, one manager? C'MON MAN!

 

As Jim Evans asked, "Well what about the Designated Hitter?"

 

PS: Sorry for reviving this thread.

[Rich Ives]

Anyone read OBR? 1.01 is outdated. Nine players each, one manager? C'MON MAN!

 

As Jim Evans asked, "Well what about the Designated Hitter?"

 

PS: Sorry for reviving this thread.

 

There are nine players.  Where do you live that they use a different quantity.  The others are substitutes, not players. Players are the ones in the game.

 

Teams still have only one manager. The others are coaches.

 

Or did you just forget to attach: 

[Replacematt]

 

Anyone read OBR? 1.01 is outdated. Nine players each, one manager? C'MON MAN!

 

As Jim Evans asked, "Well what about the Designated Hitter?"

 

PS: Sorry for reviving this thread.

 

There are nine players.  Where do you live that they use a different quantity.  The others are substitutes, not players. Players are the ones in the game.

 

Teams still have only one manager. The others are coaches.

 

Or did you just forget to attach: 

 

 

Yes. There are ten players in the game with a DH.

[lawump]

In South Carolina FED, the appeal rule (appealing a missed base or a runner leaving early) and batter's box rule (batter must remain in the box during the at-bat...) are not enforced in their entirety. 

 

We simply call runners out after all continuous action is over for failing to touch a base or failing to properly tag-up.

[ALStripes17]

In South Carolina FED, the appeal rule (appealing a missed base or a runner leaving early) and batter's box rule (batter must remain in the box during the at-bat...) are not enforced in their entirety.

We simply call runners out after all continuous action is over for failing to touch a base or failing to properly tag-up.

Please tell me you are kidding about the appeals

[Richvee]

 

In South Carolina FED, the appeal rule (appealing a missed base or a runner leaving early) and batter's box rule (batter must remain in the box during the at-bat...) are not enforced in their entirety.

We simply call runners out after all continuous action is over for failing to touch a base or failing to properly tag-up.

Please tell me you are kidding about the appeals

 

He's not kidding. I've heard this before. No appeal needed. Umpire calls runner out automatically after play relaxes. 

[noumpere]

 

In South Carolina FED, the appeal rule (appealing a missed base or a runner leaving early) and batter's box rule (batter must remain in the box during the at-bat...) are not enforced in their entirety.

We simply call runners out after all continuous action is over for failing to touch a base or failing to properly tag-up.

Please tell me you are kidding about the appeals

 

It was the old FED rule, and when they changed it 10(?) years ago, SC didn't go along with the change.

[maven]

In case your head is exploding: FED changed it bc no other sport requires the defense to call attention to infractions by the offense in order to invoke a penalty.