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  1. But, I think it aligns with the new HBP standard where the batter isn't required to move to avoid the pitch. Batter stays still, they might get their base. Batter moves they might get out.
  2. beerguy55

    Feint to Third

    Because physics. As has been alluded, it may not be 100% but it's probably 99.99%...as you step towards third with your left foot your right foot is (likely) going to come off the rubber, in any credible feint attempt - especially one that involves a subsequent attempt to throw/feint to first. Now, are you asking "if a pitcher feints to third, and never breaks contact with the rubber, now what must/can he do?" Otherwise, what are you asking - because you've been told that most of the time the feint will (naturally) cause him to disengage, but if he doesn't disengage his pivot foot he's still subject to pitching rules, so I'm not clear what you don't understand
  3. Assuming the helmet was still on the batter's head this sounds like interference to me. Batter out, runner returns to second.
  4. beerguy55

    Missed Base

    7.02-- In advancing, a runner shall touch first, second, third and home base in that order. If forced to return, the runner shall retouch all bases in reverse order, unless the ball is dead under any provision of Rule 5.09. In such cases, the runner may go directly to the original base OBR, FED, LL , baseball, softball, t-ball, slo pitch, kickball, all effectively say the same thing in their rules, but in no way do they mean what you are saying. By your logic, if, on a home run, I miss second base that negates my touch of third base and of home, so the defense could appeal any of those bases - that is wrong. The re-touch of first base still occurred and can't be ignored - he's still required to touch second because he missed it, but the fact of that doesn't undo his touch of first. It sounds like you would have the runner (from first base) go back to second, to correct his missed based, and then go back to first again to validate his re-touch/tagup. Now, MAYBE there's some provision for a runner who runs directly from third base across the infield to first base, and then goes back to second...I'm not sure of that, and it wouldn't apply here.
  5. I'm speculating that an umpire heard a coach/player say something, ejected him (perhaps itchy trigger finger), and then realized, or was told by his partner, that what he heard wasn't what was said (or it was said by a fan, not a player). It's the balance between looking bad, saving face, admitting error, and correcting a wrong - I can't imagine why an umpire couldn't un-eject someone if extenuating circumstances determined the ejection was unwarranted or unfounded. "My mistake, I thought you said something else"...now, coach/player must tread carefully here...umpire just put himself out there by publicly correcting a public mistake...any snark, sarcasm, comeback, snide remark...anything but "thank you" or "no worries" or "could happen to anyone" could reinstate that ejection. I suspect he could also change his ejection if it was realized the wrong player was punished. It might be a little more difficult - and probably be inadvisable - to change your mind if you made quick ejection and then realized a couple of seconds later that you simply overreacted, and that a warning (or ignore) was more appropriate...I think there you could probably still undo it, but it would probably do more harm than just leaving the ejection in place. After all, the player/coach did SOMETHING inappropriate. Big difference between wrongly ejecting someone who was innocent and 'wrongly' ejecting someone who is guilty of a lesser offense. Unless you're the type who will justify it by concluding he's just being punished for the times he didn't get caught.
  6. beerguy55

    AAA leading early

    wtf is this game??? AAA what? Is there a link to these rules? So, on the wild pitch, why wouldn't the runner on second lead off/leave the base while the ball was still in the "catcher's area", or how could you really effectively determine he didn't...ie. as the pitch went by the catcher both the ball and catcher are in the box
  7. No TD/UIC I've ever run across has mandated this - and I've been a TD and would never think of mandating something like this. The closest I've seen - especially in scenarios where you have lesser experienced coaches - and NOT at the plate meeting, but at the pre-tourney coaches meeting - so it's said once, not at every game...and this language will usually come from the UIC, but sometimes the TD if the UIC isn't present. I've also seen this said once at pre-season league meetings. "You may not argue judgment calls...however, you may ASK an umpire to get assistance from his partner - in that case, request time, and talk to the umpire who made the call...if he thinks he needs help, he will talk to his partner...if he thinks he got the call right, he will not, and will tell you. Anything beyond that will be considered arguing and you may be ejected. Except for appealing a check swing you may never discuss/dispute balls or strikes." And then there's the inevitable question and the response will be something like "the plate ump is NOT 'in charge' and cannot overrule the base ump". Again, it's said once...it's an orientation for newer coaches, a reminder for the rest.
  8. Curious to see where this is going... (Why not)
  9. Hey...wait a minute...I don't think that was a compliment.
  10. Calling the ball does not necessarily mean that fielder is protected - it is the ump's judgment to who was more likely to make the play. He could in fact rule the pitcher was the most likely to make the play.
  11. So, if the coach says "that F*#King computer sucks" will the PU eject him for insulting an umpire? Is the computer part of the brotherhood?
  12. I guess it comes down to whether your strike three mechanic is to sell the out or the strike. If you're selling the strike, why aren't you doing the chainsaw or the Frank Drebin on a close strike two? The strike three mechanic is about the out, not the strike (or it should be). Unless you like being the center of attention, your strike three mechanic is the same whether it caught the corner, or went right down the heart of the plate. To that extent, it doesn't really matter who decided it was a strike, the batter is out, and the mechanic indicates that.
  13. beerguy55

    Caught ball?

    I would disagree from my experience simply because I don't know if I've ever heard an umpire say "catch"...they say "out"...and the occasional "yes" or "he got it"...I would agree if umpires routinely called "catch" and "no catch" - that would be the equivalent of calling both "foul ball" and "fair ball" and would be disastrous. But that's not been my experience. We've heard "no catch" many times and it's never caused confusion, to my recollection. So the potential confusion you anticipate is addressed by a learned (through experience) set of expectations. "out" vs "no catch" , "foul ball" vs silence
  14. The problem is, every tourney we run across is different, or handled differently, and the language and standards are different...in one season, we played 90 games before someone brought it up...hard to be prepared and know in advance it needs to come out when you don't find out about it until the plate meeting of game 91 in the season. And the solution, to solve the "safety" problem, is to cover it with tape. Kind of like going through airport security and having that dangerous tube of toothpaste removed from your bag, and dumped into a garbage can surrounded by 1000 people.
  15. Treat it like a BB - no at bat, but a plate appearance - just call it something else. Base on Missed Pitch? BMP. Gets counted for OBP just like BB's. There's no way around it without creating a new method to reach base, and a new stat calc. Ultimately, that's not baseball, so they can have whatever video game standards they want.
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