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  1. I would argue it's not careless at all. A batter throwing his bat at a pitch (which I've done on more than a few hit and runs) is quite deliberate and marked. If said bat then hinders a fielder then sure, that's a problem and the batter will be out. But on its own, it's anything but careless. Far different story than the batter who tosses his bat with reckless abandon after getting a hit.
  2. Outside the pro and ncaa levels there are no rule provisions for video review (eg. a FED ump can't ask for a parent's cell phone video of a play to review his call). Besides that...beyond the whole element of time wasting, who would you propose pay for such a framework? The only value I would give to body cams (which could get destroyed by foul balls on plate umpires) would be to provide evidence for confrontations, ejections, etc - NOT for review challenges.
  3. beerguy55

    Ball Modifying

    Then things have changed since I was that age. Every pitcher I played with knew how to take advantage of imperfections on the ball, whether they were created, or just a result of game play. Now, this was at a time where you got two new balls for the game...not sure what the standard is today.
  4. When are they "in the game?" Once the ball has been made live? Do we need to wait for a pitch? I'm thinking for these scenarios where the illegal sub is: A fielder at beginning of an inning, there through pitcher warmups, still there as pitcher gets ready to throw first pitch (or even a mid-inning sub - for injury perhaps) A batter entering the box at any time (ball may or may not be live when he does so) A substitute base runner
  5. beerguy55

    Ball Modifying

    And even if the coach hasn't, you can guarantee some of the pitchers have figured it out. At the high school age, many pitchers are able to figure out how to use the scuff marks that appear on the ball naturally during the game to their advantage...of course they know how to use the branded logo on their team balls.
  6. beerguy55

    Ball Modifying

    Provided that the device is branding their logo, and physically altering the surface (ie. burning away the fabric), I would say this meets the standard of "deface" the rule book is trying to address, and does address in a few different places...the pitcher may not deface the ball (ie. scratch/scuff the surface)...you may not use any bats or equipment that may deface the ball. In your case it sounds like the ball is marked up, and if the surface has been altered, so you now have a doctored ball. It's going to move in some unpredictable fashion, if you know how to take advantage of it. I suspect that would be the same in any rule set. Just don't get stuck on the dictionary definition of "deface" - writing the team logo in Sharpie to identify the ball as belonging to the team is also "defacing" the ball, but doesn't meet the spirit of the rule, IMO.
  7. Whether or not it's the "according to Hoyle" definition of a pop-up, it's not really relevant. Even if it was short outfield...if it's deep enough for the runner on third to score (or to try to score), it could be deep enough for the runner on second to try to advance to third (especially if to right field...but even then, knowing the throw is going home R2 may be told to go to third)...even if R2 stays put (eg. fly ball to shallow left), if R3 is advancing then the fielder who made the catch is throwing the ball...at any age, but more especially at the younger ages, that throw can go anywhere, which could allow the runner on second to advance to home. If R2 does try to advance to third, the outfielder could also throw to third, and make a bad throw, allowing the runner to score. Outfielder hits cutoff and cutoff makes bad throw to third. And so on. Like I said before...many possibilities, and I've seen them all play out. Including the kid celebrating the first fly ball he's ever caught and everyone's giving him high fives while the runners are still running.
  8. Lots of possibilities...deep cF...diving catch, or f8 trips after catching the ball...speedy F2 scores. For younger kids, f8 dances around cheers and celebrates making the catch, high fives with F7 and F9, then realizes there's a play going on....or the most simple, after the catch F8 makes a bad throw to third allowing F2 to advance to home...I've seen it all.
  9. Fixed it for you I know this is a new world for a lot of us, but calling her "Gil" is known as deadnaming and is not appropriate. In fact, an album she released in June features the name "Gil Imber" on a tombstone. Lindsay's pronoun is she/her/hers.
  10. No. The coach should have protested this incorrect application of the rules. Softball or baseball this is the same. You can only overrun a runner by physically passing them (or have them pass you running backwards), not as a result of an appeal, and not for passing a base a preceding runner missed. The two humans have to actually physically be past each other....not theoretically. Overrunning the base runner is also something that is to be called as soon as it occurs.
  11. beerguy55

    tag plays

    No, from a scorekeeping perspective the "original" third out never happened and is undone if necessary...it is replaced by the "fourth" out which becomes the actual third out.
  12. beerguy55

    tag plays

    Yes...he's not a preceding runner...so, it's a time play...the runners from second and third score (which I did have happen with my team once - diving catch in the gap, R2/R3 tagged, R1 did not tag up and fell when stopping at second to go back to first, by the time F3 tagged first base R2 and R3 had crossed the plate)
  13. OK - so, I'm going to go out on a limb here and summarize. 1. If the play had been killed in any way (eg. ump calls "time"), it's no pitch...play can't restart if the ump doesn't make the ball live...so it's a big fat nothing 2. If the play remained live throughout there are two possibilities: Ump would be within his rights to call "no pitch" and undo anything that happened, basically saying he wasn't ready (catcher, batter and umpire must be ready for a pitch) - and this is what he should do If he were to let the home run stand, though very poor game management and completely unsupported technique, there may be little/no avenue to reverse the decision, though I'd like to see how a protest committee would handle it (sure I was ready...just wasn't behind the plate)
  14. He's not...you're not...I'm sure there's a best practice here you were all taught, but is there a "rule"? There are plenty of scenarios in amateur ball, especially one and two man crews, where the ball remains live and the ump isn't anywhere near the plate by the time action ends...so, sure, I can see times when the pitcher/batter are ready to go and the ump isn't ready. (that's still gotta be an umpire dawdling back to the plate, socializing with F5, or something like that) So, newbie ump, knows enough the play never "died"...or doesn't even know enough to know it matters...he decides "well, pitcher and batter were ready, who am I to undo the home run"...we know if the ball was dead that is an error in rule application, and could be reversed on protest...assuming the ball was always live, is there a rule to support a protest...or is this a, for the umpire, "don't do that"? Frankly, if I'm a solo ump and still around second base, on my way back to the plate, and the pitcher throws a pitch and the batter hits it I'm probably ejecting a coach. (not saying that it's right)
  15. If I ever decided to umpire for financial reasons it would be to fund an annual vacation...or Christmas presents. It's exactly why my boss wife works part time...just a bit more money in the piggy bank for some fun. Another $3-$5k play money would be all I ever hope for/achieve. After that, I suppose it's all about perspective, what kind of lifestyle you currently have, and what you hope to have. With the lifestyle I now have and come accustomed to, it would be impossible (or very depressing) for me to go back.
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