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  1. Thanks -- I don't think I ever knew this rule difference. OTOH, I can count the number of times R3 was hit by the pitch in my 2.5 score years of umpiring on zero hands
  2. I might also ask the coaches whether other runners (generally) attempt to advance when R3 steals home. In that case, it makes sense to award them the advance base, as opposed to sending them back (and, yes, the rules makers could have made this advance a condition -- as on CI -- stealing runners advance). I don't know whether that's true or not -- just speculation.
  3. Nothing, if he doesn't interfere.
  4. It''s the position of the ball that matters, not the feet. If the ball was over foul territory when it was first touched, it's a foul ball. If the ball was over fair territory when it was first touched, it's a fair ball.
  5. Is that a typo? Because, R3 is never out in this situation -- it's NOT RI. If the pitch is a strike, and it's strike 3, then the batter is out. If the batter is the third out, then no run can score -- just like any other play in which the batter makes the third out before reaching first.
  6. From J/R: If a runner is attempting to steal home and there is a pitch that touches him at the plate, the pitch is ruled either a ball or strike and it is dead. Every runner (including the struck runner) is awarded his advance base. However, if the pitch was a third strike the batter is out, and if such out is the third out, there is no run
  7. First baseman in foul territory Leaving equipment on the field Taking signs while off the rubber Coach not in the box (closer to home or to fair territory) etc. (all for OBR)., and parphrased
  8. Yes, it's a violation -- the penalty for which is "don't do that" (and if someone repeatedly fails to "don't do that" I suppose he could be ejected.) You can find words to this effect in many of the guidelines / interps -- JR, JEA, etc. The whole rule is part of the balance / dance between batter / runner and pitcher. It's clear enough to those who work professional baseball, and that's who the rules are written for. The rest of us just "borrow" those rules (see somewhere in the introductory section). Complaints about the way the rules are written, especially in OBR are just windmill tilting. Heck, Evans identified 123 (or whatever) problems with the rules and he likely had more sway in getting them changed than all of us combined.
  9. noumpere

    Passing Runner

    It can also be inferred from the play in 5.09(b)(9) where the passed runner is allowed to return to third if he does so before he is out.
  10. some use(d) green. some use(d) fake html tags <sarcasm>
  11. noumpere


    My guess is because if they don't the umpire or the other team will ask for the ball to be removed, and it will -- and if this continues, it will just PO everyone. SO, just accept the inevitable and throw out the ball (and then the other team will do the same). Or, some combination of all the above
  12. PU isn't going to have a better view of F4 coming down (or not) on the back of the base. I'd tell that to skipper. No need to go for help.
  13. It's a little off topic, but I did post this a week or so ago in the "other sports" portion of this site: A group has been putting questions of the week (well, they come out 2x / week; about 4 questions per submission)for HS VB Here's a link to the most recent Qs and As and information on signing up https://wp.me/pci27J-8N I participate in the twice-weekly quizzes and find them very helpful.
  14. Depends on the code (including, perhaps, the specific sport). You can, for example, get two outs here in FED baseball.
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    appeal play

    Yes -- and had there been an R1 who also left early, the defense could appeal R1 (third out), R2 (fourth out), and R3 (fifth out). Okay, it wouldn't be recorded that way, but ....
  16. Can't answer beyond the generic "in general, the runner is out and the batter is awarded first' until the OP provides more details.
  17. noumpere

    appeal play

    So far, the run from third counts. The out at second happened after R3 passed the plate, and the out is not a force out. The defense can still appeal R3 leaving early. If they do so, the run will not count.
  18. Yes -- Basketball (20+ years), volleyball (4 years). Each of them helps me be successful in the others.
  19. Of females in NS who play a "bat-and-ball" sport, what percentage play (only) softball, what percentage play (only) baseball, and what percentage play both? (Is "percentage" the right word there, or is it "percent?")
  20. You are reading it incorrectly. Either move is a balk if R1 is not attempting / feinting an advance; either move is legal if R1 is attempting / feinting an advance (the specific words might differ by code; the practical effect at almost all amateur levels is the same). The note is in there so that if F1 turns past first that specific move is NOT to be interpreted as a move to first (and, thus, a balk for feinting to first). You can imagine that without this note, some coach / umpire / announcer would be confused as to whether what the pitcher was legal.
  21. No one is "getting you started." No one said this must be softball. In fact, no real answer has been given because the OP hasn't clarified the rules code.
  22. In THIS play, the runners return TOI -- but that's only because there was an "intervening play" (the play at the plate). As a general rule, in OBR, runners return TOP on RLI. In FED, runners return TOI in RLI, regardless of on intervening play.
  23. Softball (and assumption) rules *might* be different on this, and it might depend on the specific timing and what happens to the ball when you say "drops it and was hit by the runner" but in general, the runner is out and the batter is awarded first.
  24. Not true -- either code.
  25. No -- the difference would be that he'd throw out the announcer right away.
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