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  1. From OBR (and it's more clear if you read the entire definition of Catch on In Flight) (emphasis added): A catch is legal if the ball is finally held by any fielder, even though juggled, or held by another fielder before it touches the ground.
  2. "Force Play" and "tag the base" are not synonyms. You can have a force play by tagging a runner; you can have an out that's made by tagging the base and it's not a force play. We usually see this when someone asks about an appeal for failing to tag up and wonders whether the "force out" (sic) cancels the run scoring. From OBR (but it's the same in all codes): A FORCE PLAY is a play in which a runner legally loses his right to occupy a base by reason of the batter becoming a runner. And your example (b) is NOT technically a force play (although it can be thought of as one in all com
  3. If your mask comes off and your hat stays on and you use your left hand, the rest doesn't matter (okay, there might be something in there that matters, but exactly where you grab the mask probably doesn't)
  4. On the contrary (depending, perhaps, on how literally one chooses to read this): (b) A field umpire may take any position on the playing field he thinks best suited to make impending decisions on the bases.
  5. You could get R2 for passing and THEN R3 for abandonment, if they happened in that order. It would need to be clear that this was the order, though.
  6. You can get close(r) to the 1b-2b line in two-man to help with this play.
  7. noumpere

    Appeal plays

    Of course, Maven is correct -- no run scores because the BR was the third out before reaching first. I am wondering whether time being called (and the, if needed, the ball being put back in play) ever makes a difference.
  8. BU probably only has time for one signal at second -- either "safe" or "off the base." Then U1 makes the call at first and THEN goes back / faces second and makes the full "safe...off the base" signal and call.
  9. There were two outs at the start of the play. You can't "pass" a runner who has abandoned.
  10. I'd rule this as a missed base and wait for the appeal, rather than an out for "passing" That said, I think the out for passing (or for abandonment) can be supported -- but it would look better if it were called earlier.
  11. One umpire to watch each fielder; one to watch each potential runner.
  12. PU might be able to get it. But, yes -- two man (and three man and four man and almost anything less than 13 man) will have some holes.
  13. You can "not like" the rules and still work the games under those rules. You can work to get the rule changed, if you want. I don't like the "immediate dead ball on a balk" rule -- it didn't stop me from working FED games.
  14. I would add (and maybe I'm reading something into the question that isn't there) that if the OP thinks the rule should be changed that s/he should follow the process to do so.
  15. Thank you for pointing out my consistency. My support is the very case plays and interps you cite. Words such as "stations himself...moving back and fort to obstruct the runner's view," "jockeys back and fort" and "positions himself" do NOT describe, imo, the "circle move" where F6 runs one time (I've never seen it happen more than once per pitch) between R2 and F1. While the movement of F6 is designed to draw the attention of R2, it's more of a magician's mis-direction than it is visual OBS (again, imo). I think you can find other "visual OBS" plays where F5 positions himself betw
  16. I think it's just semantics, but imo if you "commit" to a swing, you can't "change your mind" by definition. If you can "change your mind" then you have only intended to swing, you have not committed to a swing.
  17. I think there's a difference between "running a circle around R2" and "jockeying back and forth between R2 and F1" I'd have the former be legal, and the latter be OBS. Exactly where to draw the line in why we get paid the big bucks.
  18. All dependent on your association /conference / district / state... Some get paid a full game fee just for showing up. Some don'tget a full game fee until the game is official (5 innings). Some want to wait until it gets dark or there's a curfew to cancel; some want to cancel if the first pitch isn't thrown within 30 seconds of the scheduled start time (okay -- that's a little extreme).
  19. He's protected to the base he would have reached absent the OBS. In the play presented, that's likely third. If this was FED, or Type B in OBR, and the ball was thrown away, it mignt be home. Note that in your revised play, the runner is EITHER protected to (and awarded) home, OR the out stands. The runner will never be returned back to third in this play.
  20. It reads to me like he had committed to the swing -- but you hadn't realized it yet. IOW, I agree with BT_Blue's "dead ball strike" ruling.
  21. Yes. Note that if BR continued past third and was thrown out, the out stands.
  22. I'm sure it works for some. It doesn't work for all. Catchers I talked to (before I retired and a couple after) hated it.
  23. It's the "super slot" that they started teaching several years ago.
  24. It's a little hard for me to tell from the description,. but it reads like a legal feint to second.
  25. I agree that F1 does not need to disengage on the 3-1 move in HS. but, the test question does not include the information that F1 "turns to step toward first". If you assume / read into the question that he does, then the play is legal. If you assume / read that he doesn't step (he either pivots on the front foot or throws across his body / behind him) then the play is a balk. I think the test maker assumed the former.
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