noumpere
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I don't see how the players' physical appearance matters in this.
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The rule says something like "pitching restrictions begin when F1 intentionally contacts the plate." What they really mean is something like, "pitching restrictions begin when F1 'gets comfortable' on the mound." Otherwise, when F1 contacts the rubber from the side and then steps with the non-pivot foot to place it in front of the rubber (and happens all the time) it would be a balk. So, in your play, if the action was all at once, smooth, part of just the whole process of taking the rubber, it's legal. IF there was a pause after taking the rubber and then reaching into the glove, it's a balk
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Violations of 6-1-1, 2, 3 are illegal pitches (and a balk with runners on base). Violations of 6-2-1 are illegal, but not necessarily illegal pitches or balks. Violations of 6-2-4 are balks, but not necessarily illegal pitches. (and there might be other examples)
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Note that the rule says something like "An illegal pitch with runners on base is a balk." That is NOT the same as "A balk with no runners on base is an illegal pitch." So, for example, F1 in contact with the rubber drops the ball. Runners on: Balk. No runner: Nothing (yet -- might become a "pitch clock" (yes, I know they don't have one physically) violation.
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Officially starting my high school umpire journey tonight
noumpere replied to orangebird's topic in High School
Doesn't need to be a hit-and-run. It's not unusual not that it happens every game or every week, but (I had it multiple times during my career) in HS for a fast R2 to try to score on a double play -- might catch the defense napping, or the team is hoping for a bad throw from F3. -
NFHS Ruleset. How is the coach physically assisting ignored ?
noumpere replied to Jglopez7's question in Ask the Umpire
So, two conflicting, rules supported, viewpoints. FED has made it clear how they want it resolved. If others were in charge, perhaps the other viewpoint would have been made official. -
NFHS Ruleset. How is the coach physically assisting ignored ?
noumpere replied to Jglopez7's question in Ask the Umpire
Somewhere else (and no, I don't recall where or when), "this type" was clarified to be the "helping to feet" and not, for example, "stopping teh runner who missed a base and directing hm back." Think of the McGuire home run -- 1BC "celebrated" but didn't "direct him back" physically. Yes, there's judgment involved. :shrug: -
Returning to a missed base after time called then ball put back in play
noumpere replied to Side Retired's question in Ask the Umpire
It depends on WHY (and WHEN) the ball became dead In your play, since action was relaxed and the ball became dead due to a TO, the runner cannot return. In a similar play where the ball is thrown out of play, then the runner can return until he advances to and touches the next base AFTER the ball becomes dead. (FED has different timing on this aspect of the play.) So if the runner was already at third and the ball becomes dead, the runner can return. If the runner was between second and third when the ball becomes dead, and the runner then advances to third, it's too late to return (legally). -
It *might* be different in FED.
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Seen it, and balked it. Seen it from the stands when it wasn't balked. Sometimes, to reposition the pivot foot, F1 would us a weight shirt, rather than a step with the free foot. Dropping the heel initiated thew weight shift, and, thus, the pitch. A "tricky" F1 would drop the heel, R1 would take off, and then F1 would step off and throw to second. If the wording were " F1 shall step off before stepping back, or to the side, with the free foot" it wouldn't be an issue; this is the same thing, but with an infinitesimally small step.
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Good article in RefMag in the past couple of months on this topic. The author suggests an EIN.
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The former is "more correct" than the latter. Place the runners where they would have been if the umpire didn't mistakenly call the out at first. Assuming the statement, "there's no way the defense could have gotten him," is correct, that's R1 and R3. But, if R2 headed for third only after F3 rolled the ball to the mound (or something like that), then R1 and R2 is correct.
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RefMag has that in all codes R1 is out, but: NFHS / NCAA: B4 leads off OBR: B5 leads off Support for this?
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(NOT a continuation of "Who Bats I and II", but just minutia that I forget after being out of it for so long) R1, two outs. B4 hits a pop up over foul territory. R1 interferes with F3, but F3 still catches the ball. Who is out (R1 or B4)? Who leads off the next time this team bats (B4 or B5)? NFHS, NCAA, OBR rulings, please.
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That's correct. Just make a note that "#39 played in the game as F9 in innings 1-4 before being replaced by a sub". Depending on the process in your state, make a proactive report to the state (or conference if ti's some conference rule like "a player may not play in the JV game and the V game on the same day") or just be prepared to answer the question if asked.
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It's "fielded to first base" which, while weirdly phrased in today's english, means "interfere with the fielder at first". It does NOT mean "while a fielder is attempting to glove a batted ball" This wording is substantially similar to OBR and JEA has a good explanation.
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I think you were mis-informed, but you now know the correct ruling for your first game next spring. Consider it an early christmas gift.
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Only if you play for the Pirates.
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You've been given all the information. The rules (and interps) don't and can't cover all the possible situations. MLB will not issue any guidance on this for "official OBR" until something weird happens in an MLB (or possibly MiLB) game. And the chances of anything close to what you've been describing happening are infinitesimal. You can go to "your" league and ask for an advance interp, but they will just be guessing as we are.
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You've been given all the information. The rules (and interps) don't and can't cover all the possible situations. MLB will not issue any guidance on this for "official OBR" until something weird happens in an MLB (or possibly MiLB) game. And the chances of anything close to what you've been describing happening are infinitesimal. You can go to "your" league and ask for an advance interp, but they will just be guessing as we are.
