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  1. I think that's also the OBR rule. FED and NCAA are different (hitting the ball while touching the plate is an out even if part of the foot is in the box)
  2. Depends on your insurance. Pretty sure that the NASO insurance used to (and may still) cover this situation; others may not.
  3. Of course. It's no different from: bases loaded, Home run. Defense throws the ball tho third and jsut stands there. In our games we'd always ask for more detail. Much the same in the OP -- but from the video I saw (without sound) the "obvious" appeals was on R2 and with nothing else, there's nothing else to ask.
  4. You needn't be ashamed of not knowing all the rules. When this happened to me, I would always try to look up the rule(s) myself. For one, the rule would stick with me better than if I just asked on a forum somewhere. For two, I'd often find something else that I didn't know.
  5. 1) Thank you for your service(s). 2) As an umpire, you need to be aware of more than "between the lines" -- expand it to the dugouts and then (a bit) to the stands. That will come with time 3) EDIT TO ADD: Where were your partners during all this? Both at the first game and during the pre-game for the second. What did they hear? How did they address it? 4) We've all been there -- and an ejection is justified. You don't need to obsess about it before the game or carry it around after the game (and I recognize all that is easier to say than to do; I'm not trying to minimize the issue.) 5) Thank you for your service(s)
  6. Yes -- the trick is interpreting / deciding "attempt to avoid," especially if the pitch is so far inside that any attempt would be futile. ( 2 ) He is touched by a pitched ball which he is not attempt- ing to hit unless (A) The ball is in the strike zone when it touches the batter, or (B) The batter makes no attempt to avoid being touched by the ball; ( 2 ) If the ball is in the strike zone when it touches the batter, it shall be called a strike, whether or not the batter tries to avoid the ball. If the ball is outside the strike zone when it touches the batter, it shall be called a ball if he makes no attempt to avoid being touched. APPROVED RULING: When the batter is touched by a pitched ball which does not entitle him to first base, the ball is dead and no runner may advance. Rule 5.02(b)(2) Comment: A batter shall not be considered touched by a pitched ball if the ball only touches any jewelry being worn by a player (e.g., necklaces, bracelets, etc.)
  7. You also need to read this: Rule 5.05(a)(2) Comment: A batter who does not realize his situation on a third strike not caught, and who is not in the process of running to first base, shall be declared out once he leaves the dirt circle surrounding home plate. Since the BR was out before reaching first, no run can score.
  8. In a parallel universe: PU watches runner touch home. Misses the ball going into the dugout and rebounding out. Fails to award (now R1 R3) advance bases. Gets video posted on twitter.
  9. If you believe them when they tell you "good game" you have to believe them when they tell you "you suck."
  10. It can be used in 3-man with no runners on. With runners, U1 has to take BR to second so shouldn't use it. Can be used in 2-man, but PU then needs to take BR to second -- so have an experienced PU *and* use it only when you are *forced* into foul territory -- in my experience, way too many use way too often when they aren't really forced. And, no matter the number of umpires, recognize that many BRs touch first and the drift into foul territory (so as not to be judged as making an attempt to second (ignoring the rule specifics here); you don't want to get run over. Personally, on 99% of the plays, 2SF works just as well with going foul with far fewer problems.
  11. noumpere

    Tag up appeal

    Yes, of course. The defense can appeal until the defense leaves the field -- the specifics of this definition might vary by code, but FED and OBR are the same (I think). This is from OBR: Appeal plays may require an umpire to recognize an apparent “fourth out.” If the third out is made during a play in which an appeal play is sustained on another runner, the appeal play decision takes precedence in determining the out. If there is more than one appeal during a play that ends a half-inning, the defense may elect to take the out that gives it the advantage. For the purpose of this rule, the defensive team has “left the field” when the pitcher and all infielders have left fair territory on their way to the bench or Clubhouse. This is from FED: Appeals must be made (1) before the next legal or illegal pitch; (2) at the end of an inning, before the pitcher and all infielders have left fair territory; (3) before an intentional base on balls is granted; or (4) on the last play of the game, an appeal can be made until the umpire(s) leave the field of play.
  12. 1) Can he? Yes. Should he? No. 2) No, the PU cannot overrule it. This call belongs to the BU. I'm sure (well, I'm hopeful) that BU learned something from this, just like I'm sure (hopeful that players and coaches learned something from this game
  13. Play the bounce. Umpire Interference is fairly limited: Rule 6.01( f ) Comment: Umpire’s interference occurs (1) when a plate umpire hinders, impedes or prevents a catcher’s throw attempting to prevent a stolen base or retire a runner on a pick-off play; or (2) when a fair ball touches an umpire on fair territory before passing a fielder. Umpire interference may also occur when an umpire interferes with a catcher returning the ball to the pitcher. This play does not meet the criteria.
  14. Agreed. "Checking the runner back to second" is not a play. Here's some info from MLBUM:
  15. Yes, as long as R1 was not attempting or feinting an advance to second -- in the umpire's judgment
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