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  1. Yes, the appeal of the BR at 1B would be an advantageous fourth out, because the BR made the out before legally touching 1B. So, by rule, no run would score. No, an advantageous 4th out is available only for outs called on appeal. The BR can never be called out for abandonment prior to touching 1B, which is defined for runners who have touched 1B. However, the defense (at least in some codes) may appeal the BR not touching 1B, which would (as an appeal play) be eligible to be ruled an advantageous 4th out. BTW, it's also possible to have an advantageous 5th out. Just sayin.
  2. Yep, sounds like LL. Probably not a firm, crisp, snap point. The role of the petty bureaucrat was always thus.
  3. Me too, with the same variations in volume as indicated by game situation. The only counterargument to this mechanic points to the pros. I've never worked a pro game.
  4. maven

    Bases loaded

    Hopefully, your umpire will look this up and not make this mistake again.
  5. True, not on the play in the OP. But yes, actual plays can involve do-overs. See lawump's link.
  6. Noumpere should be along shortly to remind you of the 2 (3?) instances in the book that require a do-over... Just can't get away with universal statements here!
  7. No, I was looking for a more specific "unless." We call R3 out for the batter's INT unless there are 2 out. In that case, the B is out: we thus prevent him from coming up to bat the next inning (and R3's run still doesn't score).
  8. Yes, that's INT. The batter's "right to the box" lapses when there is no pitch. If he has time—as he seems to have from the description—he must vacate the space needed by the defense to make the play.
  9. Well, from what I've learned about Einstein-Rosen bridges... Oh, wait, the thread is on travel time, not time travel. Carry on.
  10. maven

    Balk no balk

    When you ask whether this would be "considered as the set position," I'm guessing you mean to ask whether he has come set in this position. That's moot. The problem is that he has his hands together for the sign. That's not legal: by rule, the ball must be in his throwing hand, which must be at his side or behind his back. Failure to do so is not a balk, which is a specific set of violations state in the rules (some umpires call anything weird by F1 a balk). Instead, the umpire should call time, tell F1 "don't do that," and then resume play.
  11. Jimurray can answer for himself, but one way he might respond is: Did the fielder block the runner's path to the base without possession of the ball? YES. Does that act constitute Type A/1 OBS under OBR? MAYBE NOT, because the fielder was in the act of fielding the ball. BUT, IMHO, this action is still OBS, by the book, because the exception for fielding the throw is limited to action required to field the throw. F3 in this play does NOT need to block the base to get to the throw, which is right to him standing at 1B. So I guess I disagree with Lindsay's take that by rule this is not OBS. The required "advanced mechanic" is to keep the runner at 1B rather than imposing the required penalty for this kind of OBS, namely a (mandatory minimum) 1 base award. Note that it doesn't help to say, "Oh, he's just protecting the runner from being pushed off the base" (in this case, by F3's leg). That would still be OBS—what other infraction could it be?
  12. That's not true, Max. If F6 is standing between R1 and the base, R1 may legally slide and initiate contact without violating FPSR (or any other rule). A legal slide is a "get out of FPSR free" card.
  13. I assume you're wondering about FPSR because R1 contacted F6. But the rule requires only that R1 slide legally directly into 2B. If a fielder positions himself between R1 and the base, that's on the fielder. No rule prohibits contact between runner and fielder as such. Provided the slide meets all the conditions of FPSR—and it sounds as if R1 did that in your play—contact is legal.
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