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-900 it involves sportsmanship.  -100 it clarifies something other than FPSR. EV it incorporates any of the Action Clock rules we trialed in AZ in 2024, including 6 defensive conferences. 

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Pine tar on aluminum bats was illegal? So what's now the most ignored rule in NFHS?

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MadMax

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2 hours ago, BigBlue4u said:

Anyone with a line on the 2025 NFHS baseball rules changes?

-900 it involves sportsmanship. 

-100 it clarifies something other than FPSR.

EV it incorporates any of the Action Clock rules we trialed in AZ in 2024, including 6 defensive conferences. 

+200 it clarifies FPSR. 

+900 it codifies Balks as Live. 

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Oh, and +1,000,000 it removes the “shall be navy” uniform rule. 😁

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BigBlue4u

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2 hours ago, MadMax said:

900 it involves sportsmanship. 

-100 it clarifies something other than FPSR.

EV it incorporates any of the Action Clock rules we trialed in AZ in 2024, including 6 defensive conferences. 

+200 it clarifies FPSR. 

+900 it codifies Balks as Live. 

MM  Thank you.

Jimurray

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15 hours ago, MadMax said:

 

+900 it codifies Balks as Live. 

 

and gives coach choice of balk or play. Based on my experience with amateur OBR umpire's comprehension of "when to call time" and "when to enforce, ignore, or acknowledge" this would be a good compromise however distasteful I would find it. 

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18 hours ago, wolfe_man said:

It'll probably have something about sliding mitts not being worn properly (they don't belong in the back pocket, but on the hand).  :) 

 

I hope they leave the mitts alone. It slows the game down enough. Put the mitt in the back pocket. 

If a pitch hits the batter in the ass, send him to 1B. That pitch was awful. 

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17 hours ago, Jimurray said:

and gives coach choice of balk or play.

I think making a balk an option play would be worse than keeping it immediately dead. If it's going to be different, keep it different by not changing it. 

I wouldn't be opposed to a live ball balk...but it's no longer on my list. 

I'd love a FPSR diagram for 2B & 3B 

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3 hours ago, wolfe_man said:

because they keep making a big deal… due to safety supposedly.

Because NFHS keeps conjoining us (umpires) into liability. And because the ramifications of a breach in liability were, or have been, so stressful and damaging, we have 2-3 generations of umpires taking the “legally and properly equipped” clause literal, in everything. 

Common sense doesn’t just go out the window; common sense wasn’t even in the damn house to begin with. 

I swear, half of NFHS’s rules that are demonstrably different than OBR, are different because NFHS is trying to prevent a lawsuit from cleaning them out. 
 

 

 

… and no, the “shall be navy” rule ain't one of them. 

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4 hours ago, wolfe_man said:

I was just kidding, but somewhat serious too, because they keep making a big deal out of the QB arm sleeves MUST be worn on the arm/wrist here in Ohio.  They're not allowed to be on the belt due to safety supposedly.

So I was having some fun with what else could they find that isn't being worn properly and thought of the oven sliding mitts. :)

 

I may be wrong . . . but weren't we instructed for years that a ball brushing a batting glove sticking out of the back pocket was NOT an HBP since it was "loose" and "not being worn properly?"  The written rule states "a garment," but I was brought up treating equipment the same way.  That is why the mitt interpretation made no sense (that and the way it was written to point blame at the umpire for "allowing it").

BTW, anybody know what happened to @Senor Azul?  Haven't seen him in a long time and his history lessons would be great to have in this conversation.

EDIT TO ADD: For the sake of a tag, we do consider whatever the runner has poking out.  The difference is we do not allow him to benefit from the improperly worn equipment.

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3 minutes ago, The Man in Blue said:

BTW, anybody know what happened to @Senor Azul?  Haven't seen him in a long time and his history lessons would be great to have in this conversation.

I saw him post on another thread yesterday (or today?).

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1 minute ago, wolfe_man said:

:sarcasm:Wow, I'm so glad they addressed the bat grip issue. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a bat go flying into the stands... oh wait yes I can - it's never happened in almost ten years. 

And then clarifying forfeiture rules so we can have a forfeit if a coach or player won't leave.

There are no words to how much better 2025 baseball is going to be!:sarcasm:

Seems to be another case of NFHS creating a battle to fight (see also:  eye black).

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gee wiz,  here we go with another reason to carry a tape measure on the field other than for measuring out of baseline on tag attempts. i know some might want to use something else as a measuring device they are carrying, but that might not be a wise move to produce that device out in the public domain.

using the plate for the first accurate 17 inches is great, but do you really want to just guess at that extra inch, or be perfect with that tape measure.

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That's it? Why even have a rules change discussion if that's the only thing they accomplished? What a waste of time.

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1 hour ago, wolfe_man said:

Rule 1-3-2c1 addresses allowable grips on non-wood bats and now includes clarification that resin, pine tar or another drying agent can be applied to the bat, not to exceed beyond 18 inches from the base of the knob. In addition to allowing players more grip control on their bats, it makes the standards the same as wood bats.

Pine tar on aluminum bats was illegal? So what's now the most ignored rule in NFHS?

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On 6/27/2024 at 11:56 AM, umpstu said:

That's it? Why even have a rules change discussion if that's the only thing they accomplished? What a waste of time.

I feel bad for the folks around the country who put HOURS into these requests only to have two items that weren't really on anyone's radar be the 2025 changes. 

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On 6/27/2024 at 11:09 AM, BLWizzRanger said:

I wonder what they did after the 10 minutes it took them to approve these?  They had the room reserved for another 8 hours...

Spent a few more hours writing seven or eight 2025 rule interps about coaches that won't leave the field and non wood bats with 18 1/4" of pine tar. 

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"I could change my call, Coach...But then we'd both be wrong" Every time I see this quote, I think of the perfect comeback: "But, coach, isn't that what we want?  Consistency?
 

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On 6/12/2024 at 10:36 AM, Jimurray said:

and gives coach choice of balk or play. Based on my experience with amateur OBR umpire's comprehension of "when to call time" and "when to enforce, ignore, or acknowledge" this would be a good compromise however distasteful I would find it. 

Mad Max,

What is your cite for your balk information?  And, I can't seem to understand the +900 or -900 etc. information.

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