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  1. The official scorer is obligated by rule 9.01(b)(2) to notify the umpire when the teams trade sides before three men are out. This is the only proactive duty the Official Scorer has by rule. 2019 OBR rule 9.01(b)(2) If the teams change sides before three men are put out, the Official Scorer shall immediately inform the umpire-in-chief of the mistake. However, the Official Scorer is directed not to tell the umpire of an improper batter-- 9.01(b)(4) The Official Scorer shall not call the attention of any umpire or of any member of either team to the fact that a player is batting out of turn.
  2. Senor Azul

    Safe or out?

    Here is the rule from two different slow-pitch leagues’ website concerning when a runner is considered past the commitment line— …A runner will be considered to have crossed the Safety Line once they touch the ground on or beyond the line. COMMITMENT LINE: Twenty (20) feet from home plate. Base runner must continue once any part of his body is over (and on the ground) past the commitment line. (as per SPN rules)
  3. 2009 Baseball Rules Interpretations SITUATION 18: On a batted ball down the right-field line, the ball bounces over the right fielder's head, and ricochets off the foul pole above the fence and back onto the field. The right fielder retrieves the ball and throws out the batter-runner at second base. The defensive coach says the play should stand since the ball never left the field, while the offensive coach says the out should not stand. RULING: The out will not stand. The hit is considered to be a ground-rule double, since the ball would have bounced over the fence. The ball is dead when it struck the foul pole over the fence. (8-3-3c, 5-1-1f-4)
  4. Oh, the irony! I recommended that Mr. noumpere update his library and here mine just got older with the purchase of a 1955 rule book. 1955 OBR rule 8.01(a) The “Windup Position.” The pitcher shall stand facing the batter, his pivot foot on, or in front of and touching the pitcher’s plate, and the other foot free… 8.05 If there is a runner, or runners, it is a balk when— (e) The pitcher delivers the ball to the batter with his pivot foot back of, or not in contact with the pitcher’s plate; What does this show? And what does this prove? Well, it shows that I have a pretty good memory when it comes to remembering that it was against the rules for a pitcher to pitch from behind the rubber. And it proves that the men who taught me the game of baseball weren’t MSUing then as it is all the rage these days. I have now established beyond any doubt that from the first year (1893) a pitcher’s plate was required that in every year through at least 1955 a pitcher could not pitch from the back edge of the rubber. And the language used in today’s rule book has always meant that the pitcher had to be on or in front of the rubber. In fact, prior to 1939 neither foot was allowed to be behind the rubber. I intend to continue my research on this question.
  5. From the 2017 Jaksa/Roder rules interpretation manual (pp. 26 and 32): Dead ball territory is a surface (object or ground) upon which a live ball becomes dead on contact. A line marking DBT is itself DBT. DBT also includes the break (i.e., the slanting portion of a protective screen), dugout steps and interiors, and the foul pole above the fence line. The dugout roof, outside walls, and dugout facing may also be DBT, depending upon the ground rules. The “foul pole” above the top of the fence line is over fair and dead ball territory, so a batted ball that strikes it is both fair and dead. If an airborne batted ball passes over the fence over fair DBT and strikes DBT it is a home run…
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    Obstruction

    From the 2017 Jaksa/Roder rules interpretation manual (chapter 15, p. 127: However, it is not obstruction if…a fielder intentionally impedes the vision of a batter or runner during a pitch, or while a pitcher is in-contact. Although such intentional actions are not obstruction, they are prohibited. Specifically…A fielder may not intentionally block a runner’s view of an in-contact pitcher. A fielder committing such actions is warned to stop, and is ejected if he continues his intentional actions after the warning.
  7. Messrs. noumpere, yawetag, maven, and Rich Ives—Mr. Jimurray gave us the correct and current interpretation for this play and it seems to have been ignored by all. Here’s what the 2018 Minor League Baseball Umpire Manual says about the new interpretation (and it is not marked as new for 2018)(section 5.41, p. 58)— “When determining whether a base runner should be called out under Rule 5.09(b)(1), so long as the umpire determines that a play is being made on the runner and an attempt to tag is occurring (i.e., the fielder is moving to tag the runner, no physical tag attempt is required to call a runner out for leaving the basepath.” Also, Rich Marazzi says in his blog on baseballrulesacademy.com— “Prior to the 2017 season, a runner’s baseline (excluding a rundown) was restricted by the fielder’s tag attempt with ball in glove or hand and extended toward the runner. This season, however, there is a rule change. A fielder no longer has to have ball in glove or hand extended toward the runner to restrict his baseline. A fielder’s movement toward the runner is sufficient.”
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    Obstruction

    2019 NCAA rule 8-3f. Visual obstruction by a defensive player may be called if a fielder interferes intentionally with a base runner’s opportunity to see the ball on a defensive play. PENALTY for f.—The umpire shall point and call “That’s obstruction.” The umpire shall let the play continue until all play has ceased, call time and award any bases that are justified in Rule 2. If a runner(s) advances beyond what the umpire would have granted and is put out, the runner(s) is out. The offender’s team shall be warned, and a second offense by that team shall result in the ejection of the offending player because of an unsportsmanlike act. Here’s an official interpretation for the NCAA found in the 2016 BRD (section 376, p. 252): Official Interpretation: Fetchiet: The first baseman stations himself between the runner and the pitcher, moving back and forth to obstruct the runner’s view: Legal, unless the pitcher makes a play at the moment of obstruction. PENALTY: The ball is dead, R1 receives second, and the umpire issues a team warning. (Website, 3/12/01) From the 2018 Minor League Baseball Umpire Manual (section 6.17, p. 98): Play 12: With a runner on first base, the first baseman—rather than holding the runner in the traditional manner—jockeys back and forth in front of the runner, several feet to the second base side of the bag. In the umpire’s judgment the first baseman is doing this intentionally to block the runner’s view of the pitcher. Ruling 12: While Official Baseball Rule 5.02(c) allows a fielder to position himself anywhere in fair territory, if the umpire deems the fielder’s actions are a deliberate effort to block the runner’s view of the pitcher, it is illegal and clearly not within the spirit of the rules. The first baseman should be warned to stop, and if he persists, he is subject to ejection.
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    Last batted out

    2019 OBR 5.04(a)(3) The first batter in each inning after the first inning shall be the player whose name follows that of the last player who legally completed his time at bat in the preceding inning. 5.04(c) Completing Time at Bat A batter has legally completed his time at bat when he is put out or becomes a runner. 2018 NFHS rule 7-1 ART. 2 . . . After the first inning, the first batter in each inning shall be the player whose name follows that of the last batter who completed his time at bat in the preceding inning.
  10. 2019 Little League Rules Instruction Manual Rule 7.10(d) INSTRUCTOR’S COMMENTS: EXAMPLE: How to make a proper appeal: To make an appeal, first you (the umpire) must make sure the ball is live. If the ball is live, it does NOT have to go back to the pitcher. The ball may be taken straight to the base missed, or to the runner who missed the base or who left early. The base or the runner can be tagged. The defense then tells the umpire what they are doing. Example: “Mr. Umpire, the runner who was on second left before the catch.” The umpire then declares the runner either safe or out. If the umpire has a dead ball situation, in other words, “time” has been called or the ball has gone into a dead ball area, he/she must first make a live ball situation. In accordance with Rule 5.11. Get a ball to the pitcher, get him/her to toe the pitcher’s plate (stand on it), and you, the umpire, yell “play” or “play ball”. Now the ball is live. Now follow the procedure outlined above for a live ball appeal.
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    Does run count

    Our guest Mario’s question matches the rule-- 2019 OBR rule 5.08(b) APPROVED RULING: One out, Jones on third, Smith on first, and Brown flies out to right field. Two outs. Jones tags up and scores after the catch. Smith attempted to return to first but the right fielder’s throw beat him to the base. Three outs. But Jones scored before the throw to catch Smith reached first base, hence Jones’ run counts. It was not a force play.
  12. Forgot to add this important point from the 2018 Minor League Baseball Umpire Manual (section 6.3, p. 82) concerning batter interference after a third strike not caught: NOTE: It does not matter if the batter-runner is in the vicinity of home plate or up the first baseline when the infraction occurs. The location of the batter-runner is not relevant.
  13. From the 2013 Wendelstedt manual (section 9.3.4, p. 178): When the batter-runner contacts an uncaught third strike, or hinders the catcher in his attempt to field the ball, the umpire will wait to see whether it has an interfering effect on the play. If the play is clearly interfered with, the umpire will call and signal interference and then call time. He will call out the batter-runner and return all other runners to their original bases. If the ball is barely affected, there may be no interference, however, if the ball is knocked a considerable distance away, interference is likely. It no longer makes any difference whether the interference was avoidable. All that matters is whether interference clearly occurred. There is no “both players doing their job” exception as with batted balls out front of the plate. R2, no outs, 2-2 count. The batter swings and misses the next pitch in the dirt. The catcher blocks the ball and it is deflected out in front of the plate. As the BR starts out of the box towards first base, (a) the ball accidentally glances off of him and rolls a couple feet away. The catcher picks up the ball and throws into right field. R2 scores and the BR ends up at second base. (b) the ball is accidentally kicked towards the dugout. The catcher chases after the ball, however, cannot make a play. R2 advances to third, and the BR reaches first base safely. Ruling: The umpire should wait and see whether the batter’s actions interfered with the catcher making a play. In (a), he should then signal that it’s nothing when the catcher is able to make the play. The play stands. In (b), he should then signal interference and then call time when the catcher cannot make the play. The BR is out, and R2 returns to second base.
  14. By definition, interference is “an act by the team at bat” so the rules of offensive interference would apply to players in the dugout. For interference to be called on a thrown ball the action must be intentional. In the OP, the player in the dugout intentionally lifted the netting to allow the errant throw to roll into the dugout. Thus, we have intentional interference on the throw. Now, who to call out? To be honest, I am not sure. I think it would be the batter-runner who was being played on at first base and who is the nearest runner to the thrown ball being interfered with. And we return the other runners to their TOI base. What do you think? Who should be called out? Mr. Aging Arbiter, this is the third or fourth time you have just mentioned me out of the blue for no particular reason other than to mock me. Why are you so obsessed with me? I have never quoted you, never mentioned you, or never even thought of you when I am trying to answer a question in this forum. I am asking you now to do the same favor for me. Please stop it.
  15. With Mr. lawump’s monosyllabic confirmation that he never received an official response to his rule interpretation request from the FED, aren’t we back to where we started? His explanation of why sometimes a case play is deleted from the case book makes sense to me so we probably should not jump to conclusions based on that alone. So his suggestion that we consider case play 3.3.1 Situation FF as the new interpretation remains just that—a suggestion. Even though it does seem to answer our original question, that case play is certainly not a new one--in fact, it was in the NFHS case book in 2015 and possibly earlier than that. In the 2016 BRD Carl Childress indicated that the old case play from 2006 was still valid. So don’t we still have a conflict?
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