Bizarro Out

[Mad Mike]

This is a pretty bizarre play. Let me know what you have on this situation. 

 

Batted ball hits first base before touching the ground. It ricochet's into the pitcher's glove. He runs over and touches first base to get the out. The announcers note that similar to a ball that is batted, hits the pitchers rubber and goes into the air where it is caught, it does not require touching a base as it is a catch. I think they are mistaken on both counts but I cannot find a reference in the NFHS or other rule books.

 

I looked in NFHS Rules 1-29 (Base Equipment), and 2-9-1 (Definition of a catch) to no avail.

 

Here is the link to video:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/07/sonny-gray-1st-base-bag_n_5105443.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

 

 

[maven]

Mike, you need the definition of CATCH (NFHS 2-9-1), which references a live ball in flight, and BATTED BALL (NFHS 2-6-1): "A batted or thrown ball is in flight until it has touched the ground or some object other than a fielder."

 

Once the batted ball hits the base, it is no longer in flight, and thus cannot be caught for an out.

 

OBR reference is 2.00 CATCH and IN FLIGHT, which is the same as the FED rule.

 

Jim Reynolds, perhaps understandably, neglected to signal "fair."

[grayhawk]

Maven is correct.  Oh, and announcers are idiots.

[JaxRolo]

Mike, you need the definition of CATCH (NFHS 2-9-1), which references a live ball in flight, and BATTED BALL (NFHS 2-6-1): "A batted or thrown ball is in flight until it has touched the ground or some object other than a fielder."

Once the batted ball hits the base, it is no longer in flight, and thus cannot be caught for an out.

Best answer!

[grayhawk]

Also, great reaction by Reynolds moving into fair territory on this rocket hit at him.  If that ball doesn't hit the base, it wouldn't have hit him either because he moved the right way.

[BT_Blue]

Maven is correct.  Oh, and announcers are idiots.

nope... this is the best answer.

[Ump29]

 

Maven is correct.  Oh, and announcers are idiots.

nope... this is the best answer.

 

 

Totally agree.

[DVA7130]

Point fair.

No catch! with signal.

Hammer when base is tagged.

Smile at the play afterward.

[noumpere]

Also, great reaction by Reynolds moving into fair territory on this rocket hit at him.  If that ball doesn't hit the base, it wouldn't have hit him either because he moved the right way.

He should have kept moving to avoid being hit by the pitcher.

 

And, am I the only one who finds the embedded gif annoying?

[Thunderheads]

 

Also, great reaction by Reynolds moving into fair territory on this rocket hit at him.  If that ball doesn't hit the base, it wouldn't have hit him either because he moved the right way.

He should have kept moving to avoid being hit by the pitcher.

 

And, am I the only one who finds the embedded gif annoying?

 

nope

[VolUmp]

Maven is correct.  Oh, and announcers are idiots.

 

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[VolUmp]

Reminds of me of a great exchange about 12 years back.

Line Drive hits rubber and bounces foul untouched.

 

Me: "Foul Ball!"

HC: "How can you call that foul?"

Me: "Because it's a foul ball."

HC: "How is that any different than hitting 1st or 3rd base?"

Me: "Umm ... because it's not 1st or 3rd base."

 

HC ... chomps ... glares ... stutters ... heads back to dugout.

[bleacher_bum]

Those who can - play, those who can't - coach, those who can't coach - broadcast.  It's the circle of life