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I'm a first year president of the local little league. When I meet with the managers, what messages do the umpires think a president should deliver? What things should have been said in years past, but apparently weren't heard?

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I'm a first year president of the local little league. When I meet with the managers, what messages do the umpires think a president should deliver? What things should have been said in years past, but apparently weren't heard?

The umpires are there to arbitrate the game, not be used & abused.  They make mistakes, if it's correctable, it will be.  This is not the pros, your life and the lives of the children are not dependent on the outcome of a play, a game, or a season.

If an umpire doesn't treat you (coach) with respect, tell the president.

 

YMMV

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I'm a first year president of the local little league. When I meet with the managers, what messages do the umpires think a president should deliver? What things should have been said in years past, but apparently weren't heard?

The umpires are there to arbitrate the game, not be used & abused. They make mistakes, if it's correctable, it will be. This is not the pros, your life and the lives of the children are not dependent on the outcome of a play, a game, or a season.

If an umpire doesn't treat you (coach) with respect, tell the president.

YMMV

Amen

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I'm a first year president of the local little league. When I meet with the managers, what messages do the umpires think a president should deliver? What things should have been said in years past, but apparently weren't heard?

The umpires are there to arbitrate the game, not be used & abused. They make mistakes, if it's correctable, it will be. This is not the pros, your life and the lives of the children are not dependent on the outcome of a play, a game, or a season.

If an umpire doesn't treat you (coach) with respect, tell the president.

YMMV

^^^^^^^^^ What Larry said.
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Remind them about Little Leagues philosophy.

 

You are not there to play baseball as a competitive sport.

You are there to teach Life Lessons to the kids through playing baseball.

Keep everything positive and fun.

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I would STRESS what they can say and what they can't say.   What they should question ( Rule misaplications) and what they  shouldn't question( judgement calls)  Explain what can be protested and when, and how they should be in control of coaches and players and fans. Respect is paramount and a 2 way street.  These  are all things  I think rec managers need to know at ALL levels.   

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make em take an umpires course and then have them do games.  Then let all the umpires yell and scream at them from 100 yards away about the crappy strike zone and calls at the bases. 

 

 

That actually may be practical, in a sense. Could require all coaches to umpire one pre-season scrimmage, not involving their own team.

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Remind them they are to be respectful, courteous, and professional. They expect it from us...

And I would put HEAVY emphasis on the role of the assistant coach (concerning umpires) : HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE!!!

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Teach them how to ask for an appeal. Also, if they come running out of the dugout, yellin and screaming. Don't be suprised when they get run.

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That actually may be practical, in a sense. Could require all coaches to umpire one pre-season scrimmage, not involving their own team.

Traditionally, we require the managers to umpire two games at a younger division.
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They should be schooled in approaching an umpire in the proper manner. Let them know that it isn't MLB, and going all "Lou Piniella" will not help their case with the umpires.

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If coaches follow the parents code of conduct towards umpires to the letter there will be no problems. Notice in number 6-will not engage in "any" types of unsportsmanlike conduct (ie, showing up the umpire with gestures, verbal cheap shots, snide remarks etc. etc., for those on this site who come with years of experience on the player side). And in number 15- just tell the coaches to substitute the word umpires for coaches in their dealings with umpires which I have done in addition to substitute talking to the League President rather than the umpire if you have a complaint. "I will respect the umpires and their authority during games and "will never" question, discuss, or confront umpires at the game field", and will take time to speak "about umpires" to the League President at an agreed upon time and place". 

 

Remember, a League is only as good as "how well it backs up its umpires".

 

Also, remember growing up. Whatever mom and dad said goes, no use arguing, putting up a fuss, backtalk, cheapshots, etc., etc., yes sir, no sir, anything you say sir, ma'am. How should one act in the courtroom in front of the judge? In front of the President or CEO of your company?  In front of your client? Act the same way on the LL field to the umpire.

 

If you don't like it, get the heck out of LL and goe to a League where you can act like a horses rear end with no consequences. From listening on this board, there are plenty out there.

 

Also, if the League is not going to back the umpires, and whatever the coaches want to do goes, like the wild west, and the no consequences leagues, please let the umpires know up front that is how the League will be run so they will know they are just piece of horse manure, and will get treated as such.

 

 

From the LL site

Youth Sports Parent Code of Conduct

Preamble
The essential elements of character building and ethics in sports are embodied in the concept of sportsmanship and six core principles: trustworthiness, respect, responsibility, fairness, caring, and good citizenship. The highest potential of sports is achieved when competition reflects these “six pillars of character.â€

I therefore agree:

  1. I will not force my child to participate in sports.

  2. I will remember that children participate to have fun and that the game is for youth, not adults.

  3. I will inform the coach of any physical disability or ailment that may affect the safety of my child or the safety of others.

  4. I will learn the rules of the game and the policies of the league.

  5. I (and my guests) will be a positive role model for my child and encourage sportsmanship by showing respect and courtesy, and by demonstrating positive support for all players, coaches, officials and spectators at every game, practice or sporting event.

  6. I (and my guests) will not engage in any kind of unsportsmanlike conduct with any official, coach, player, or parent such as booing and taunting, refusing to shake hands, or using profane language or gestures.

  7. I will not encourage any behaviors or practices that would endanger the health and well-being of the athletes.

  8. I will teach my child to play by the rules and to resolve conflicts without resorting to hostility or violence.

  9. I will demand that my child treat other players, coaches, officials and spectators with respect regardless of race, creed, color, sex or ability.

  10. I will teach my child that doing one's best is more important than winning, so that my child will never feel defeated by the outcome of a game or his/her performance.

  11. I will praise my child for competing fairly and trying hard, and make my child feel like a winner every time.

  12. I will never ridicule or yell at my child or other participants for making a mistake or losing a competition.

  13. I will emphasize skill development and practices and how they benefit my child over winning. I will also de-emphasize games and competition in the lower age groups.

  14. I will promote the emotional and physical well-being of the athletes ahead of any personal desire I may have for my child to win.

  15. I will respect the officials and their authority during games and will never question, discuss, or confront coaches at the game field, and will take time to speak with coaches at an agreed upon time and place.

  16. I will demand a sports environment for my child that is free from drugs, tobacco, and alcohol, and I will refrain from their use at all sports events.

  17. I will refrain from coaching my child or other players during games and practices, unless I am one of the official coaches of the team.

The Little League Pledge
I trust in God
I love my country
And will respect its laws
I will play fair
And strive to win
But win or lose
I will always do my best

The Little League Parent/Volunteer Pledge
I will teach all children to play fair and do their best
I will positively support all managers, coaches and players
I will respect the decisions of the umpires
I will praise a good effort despite the outcome of the game

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make em take an umpires course and then have them do games.  Then let all the umpires yell and scream at them from 100 yards away about the crappy strike zone and calls at the bases. 

I seem to remember that several years ago, where in the country I can't remember, the HS coaches had to take the same test as the umpires. And pass it to be able to coach! When coach, after coach, after coach, started failing the test the state said the coaches didn't have to take the test anymore! Imagine that!!

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Remind the coaches that their attitudes toward umpires will rub off on their players. If he treats us with respect, and teaches his players the same, they will benefit more in the future than they would if all they did was argue and complain.

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