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Let this thread be the end-all-be-all answer to the question: What mask does (Insert MLB Umpire name here) wear???

 

First the stats at a glance:

 

MLB_masks-1.png

 

 

Frames:

30 - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

17 – Nike

16 – Wilson Titanium

9 – Mizuno

5 – All-Star System 7

4 – Wilson Shock FX

2 – All -Star double bar "i-vision"

1 - Honigs K94

1 – Diamond

 

Mask Padding:

48 - Wilson pads (black, tan, two-tone, gray)

24 - Team Wendy

3- All-star standard pads

1 - Mizuno pads

 

Other:

28 - Guys wear throat guards

5 - Guys wear sun shields

 

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Umpire face mask combo's as of 6/21/2012

 

Note: if padding not specified, the umpire uses Wilson pads (black, tan or two-tone)

 

Listed by Uniform number including current minor league rovers

 

1 Bruce Dreckman – Mizuno / Wilson pads

2 Dan Bellino - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

3 Tim Welke - Wilson Shock FX helmet

4 Tim Tschida - Nike /Team Wendy Pads

5 Dale Scott - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

6 Mark Carlson - Wilson Titanium/team Wendy pads

7 Brian O'Nora - Nike /Team Wendy Pads/Wilson throat guard

8 Jeff Kellogg -Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007/Wilson throat guard

9 Brian Gorman - Wilson Titanium

10 Phil Cuzzi - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

11 Tony Randazzo - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007/sun shield

12 Gerry Davis - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007/ throat guard

13 Derryl Cousins – Diamond mask (Black)/ Wilson pads

14 Bill Miller - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

15 Ed Hickox – all-star system 7 helmet

16 Mike DiMuro - all-star system 7 helmet

17 John Hirschbeck - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007/Wilson throat guard

18 Brian Runge - Wilson Titanium

19 Ed Rapuano - Wilson Titanium/Wilson throat guard/sun shield

20 Tom Hallion - Nike /Team Wendy Pads

21 Hunter Wendelstedt - Wilson Titanium

22 Joe West - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

23 Lance Barksdale - Wilson Titanium

24 Jerry Layne - Wilson Titanium

25 Fieldin Culbreth - All-Star double bar “i-visionâ€

27 Larry Vanover - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

28 Jim Wolf - Nike /Team Wendy Pads/Wilson throat guard

29 Bill Hohn - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

30 Rob Drake – Mizuno/Wilson pads/throat guard

32 Dana DeMuth - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007/sun shield

33 Mike Winters - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007/honig’s throat guard

34 Sam Holbrook - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

35 Wally Bell – Honigs K94/wendy pads/ Wilson throat guard

36 Tim McClelland - Nike /Wilson Pads/throat guard

37 Gary Darling - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

38 Gary Cederstrom - Wilson Shock FX helmet with modified frame

39 Paul Nauert - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

41 Jerry Meals - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007/ Wilson throat guard

43 Paul Schrieber - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

44 Kerwin Danley - Wilson Shock FX helmet with throat guard

45 Jeff Nelson - Mizuno/team wendy pads

46 Ron Kulpa - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

47 Mark Wegner - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007/ wendy pads/ Wilson throat guard

49 Andy Fletcher - Wilson Titanium/Wilson throat guard

50 Paul Emmel - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

51 Marvin Hudson - Nike /Team Wendy Pads

52 Bill Welke - all-star system 7 helmet

53 Greg Gibson - all-star system 7 helmet

54 CB Bucknor - all-star system 7 helmet

55 Angel Hernandez - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

56 Eric Cooper – Mizuno/Team Wendy pads/ Wilson throat guard

57 Mike Everitt - Wilson Titanium/Wilson throat guard

58 Dan Iassogna - Mizuno/wilson pads/ Wilson throat guard

60 Marty Foster - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007/sun shield

61 Bob Davidson - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007/throat guard

62 Damien Beal - Wilson Titanium

63 Laz Diaz - Nike /All-Star Pads/sun shield

64 Alan Porter - Wilson Titanium/Wilson throat guard

65 Ted Barrett Wilson powder coated titanium/Mizuno pads/Throat guard

66 Jim Joyce - Wilson Titanium

68 Chris Guccione - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

70 D.J. Reyburn - Mizuno/team wendy pads/throat guard

72 Alfonso Marquez - Mizuno/Grey wilson pads/ spyder throat guard

73 Casey Moser - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

74 John Tumpane - Wilson Titanium

75 Chad Fairchild - Wilson Titanium/Wilson throat guard

76 Mike Muchlinski - Nike /Team Wendy Pads

77 Jim Reynolds - All-Star double bar “i-visionâ€

79 Manny Gonzalez - Wilson Shock FX helmet

80 Adrian Johnson - Nike /Wilson Pads

81 Chris Tiller - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

83 Mike Estabrook - Nike /Team Wendy Pads

84 Angel Campos - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007/team wendy pads

85 Vic Carapazza - Nike /Team Wendy Pads

86 David Rackley – Mizuno/Spyder throat guard

87 Scott Barry - Nike /Team Wendy Pads

88 Doug Eddings - Wilson Titanium/Wilson throat guard/sun shield

89 Cory Blaser - Nike Modified/Team wendy pads/throat guard

90 Mark Ripperger - Mizuno/Team Wendy pads/throat guard

91 Brian Knight - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007/ wendy pads/ Wilson throat guard

92 James Hoye - Wilson Dyna-Lite WTA3007

94 Lance Barrett - Nike /Team Wendy Pads

95 Tim Timmons - Nike /Team Wendy Pads

97 Todd Tichenor - Nike /Team Wendy Pads

98 Chris Conroy -- Nike /Team Wendy Pads/Wilson throat guard

 

***Updated 6/22/12 to reflect the correct # of Wilson Dyna Lite Frames***

Had to put this here but #29 is not Bill Hohn it is AAA umpire Sean Barber who is a fill in. Only reason why i noticed is because i wanted to see of his name was on here.... Sad that it isnt lol but oh well, still interesting.

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Had to put this here but #29 is not Bill Hohn it is AAA umpire Sean Barber who is a fill in. Only reason why i noticed is because i wanted to see of his name was on here.... Sad that it isnt lol but oh well, still interesting.

This list is almost 3 years old. I am 1000000% sure it doesn't reflect the current MLB full time and call up roster.

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This list is almost 3 years old. I am 1000000% sure it doesn't reflect the current MLB full time and call up roster.

As the OP you have a lot of work ahead of you updating it.

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4 hours ago, acpar72 said:

Mark Wegner now wearing the Force 3 Defender mask V2

Guess he's been doing his shrugs to get those neck muscles up to speed. Tried one of those things for two games but after having used the Wilson and Nike Ti's for years, it felt like Wile E. Coyote had slipped an anvil onto the bill of my cap. But hey, whatever gets ya through the season.

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1 hour ago, Man_In_Black said:

Guess he's been doing his shrugs to get those neck muscles up to speed. Tried one of those things for two games but after having used the Wilson and Nike Ti's for years, it felt like Wile E. Coyote had slipped an anvil onto the bill of my cap. But hey, whatever gets ya through the season.

Wearing it tighter will help with that. 

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I'd like to strap on the V2 sometime. I tried on the V1, and even cinched up tight, as designed, found it to be a bit too heavy for me, and the vision wasn't as good as my other masks (too far away from my face). 

 

But wearing it tight, instead of hanging off your hat, does make a difference on how heavy it feels. I like the concept, but think the end product still needs some work. 

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1 hour ago, kylejt said:

I'd like to strap on the V2 sometime. I tried on the V1, and even cinched up tight, as designed, found it to be a bit too heavy for me, and the vision wasn't as good as my other masks (too far away from my face). 

 

But wearing it tight, instead of hanging off your hat, does make a difference on how heavy it feels. I like the concept, but think the end product still needs some work. 

The difference between the V1 and V2 is pretty big. I have a thick neck, (to go a long with my belly), and had no issues with V1 weight or sight lines.  The only issue I had with V1 was the set of springs at the forehead area. There was not a whole lot of padding between the springs and your head, like a small amount and when you would get hit with a shot in the middle of the mask it would drive those springs into your forehead.  As with the chest protector V2, Jason listened to every bit of feedback he received from customers and made changes to the designs accordingly.  Big one to the mask was relocation to the side springs and the removal of the forehead springs. Vast improvements to already great products.  I don't have any idea what he could do to the leg guards?

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On 7/4/2016 at 1:15 PM, umpstu said:

The difference between the V1 and V2 is pretty big. I have a thick neck, (to go a long with my belly), and had no issues with V1 weight or sight lines.  The only issue I had with V1 was the set of springs at the forehead area. There was not a whole lot of padding between the springs and your head, like a small amount and when you would get hit with a shot in the middle of the mask it would drive those springs into your forehead.  As with the chest protector V2, Jason listened to every bit of feedback he received from customers and made changes to the designs accordingly.  Big one to the mask was relocation to the side springs and the removal of the forehead springs. Vast improvements to already great products.  I don't have any idea what he could do to the leg guards?

Jason (and Force3) is so much more reactive and proactive about improving Force3's lineup. Notice the difference in methodology of sales and marketing: there was a Defender V1, now there's a Defender V2... can you still buy a V1? No, not through retail channels. There was an UnEqual V1 and now, after great improvements, there's a V2... can you still buy a V1? Again, no, not through retail channels. The DynaLite Aluminum is supposed to be an improvement over the DynaLite steel alloy, right? And the Platinum CP is/was supposedly an improved design over the Gold, was it not?... <cricket chirp>... See my point?

I wore a Defender V1 and while I admired the concept, I disliked the execution. It stood a noticeable distance from your face, and the peripheral vision was hampered or downright impeded. The reduction of spring assemblies from 4 to 3, and their subsequent repositioning I'm sure is an improvement in weight, vision and performance – I just have yet to try a V2 on. Because of the presence of those spring assemblies the mask could get lighter still by using aluminum on the outer structure (strong, but rigid and unyielding... meaning the bars won't deform), with the energy transferred to the spring assemblies mounted to the hollow-steel (which the mask wholly is now) inner structure. That might be a thought?

As far as the shinguards are concerned, they are already a near-perfect product. I've only found two shortcomings in my use of them: the first is the need of an abrasion-resistant material at the inner bottom of the guard where they are prone to rubbing against your plate shoes, namely the NB460 in that mid-cut; the second is, with the plethora of guys doing Hands-on-Knees stance, the upper edge of the guards could be reshaped to be more hand-friendly. As utterly contemptible the DavisShield CP is, the shinguards are shaped rather well to accommodate and facilitate the HoK stance Davis championed.

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On 7/4/2016 at 11:42 PM, MadMax said:

Jason (and Force3) is so much more reactive and proactive about improving Force3's lineup. Notice the difference in methodology of sales and marketing: there was a Defender V1, now there's a Defender V2... can you still buy a V1? No, not through retail channels. There was an UnEqual V1 and now, after great improvements, there's a V2... can you still buy a V1? Again, no, not through retail channels. The DynaLite Aluminum is supposed to be an improvement over the DynaLite steel alloy, right? And the Platinum CP is/was supposedly an improved design over the Gold, was it not?... <cricket chirp>... See my point?

I wore a Defender V1 and while I admired the concept, I disliked the execution. It stood a noticeable distance from your face, and the peripheral vision was hampered or downright impeded. The reduction of spring assemblies from 4 to 3, and their subsequent repositioning I'm sure is an improvement in weight, vision and performance – I just have yet to try a V2 on. Because of the presence of those spring assemblies the mask could get lighter still by using aluminum on the outer structure (strong, but rigid and unyielding... meaning the bars won't deform), with the energy transferred to the spring assemblies mounted to the hollow-steel (which the mask wholly is now) inner structure. That might be a thought?

As far as the shinguards are concerned, they are already a near-perfect product. I've only found two shortcomings in my use of them: the first is the need of an abrasion-resistant material at the inner bottom of the guard where they are prone to rubbing against your plate shoes, namely the NB460 in that mid-cut; the second is, with the plethora of guys doing Hands-on-Knees stance, the upper edge of the guards could be reshaped to be more hand-friendly. As utterly contemptible the DavisShield CP is, the shinguards are shaped to accommodate and facilitate the HoK stance Davis championed rather well.

Good point about the bottom of the shin guards. I'm sure Jason is paying attention to our comments. He has never hesitated to correspond with me and gives honest answers, even dropping teaser hints about products.  Good write up by you. Thanks.

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Perhaps I missed it somewhere in this thread, but I just tuned into the Dodgers-Padres game and it appears that PU Gerry Davis is using a diamond frame with Wilson pads? 

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8 hours ago, Stk004 said:

Perhaps I missed it somewhere in this thread, but I just tuned into the Dodgers-Padres game and it appears that PU Gerry Davis is using a diamond frame with Wilson pads? 

Good catch!

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5 hours ago, mbkcoach said:

The "Gerry Davis" mask he sells is the same as the diamond if I am not mistaken. 

Correct

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Just curious, is the Wilson Dyna-lite that is so popular with MLB umps the same dyna-lite that can be bought for $50 - $60?

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24 minutes ago, blue23ll said:

Just curious, is the Wilson Dyna-lite that is so popular with MLB umps the same dyna-lite that can be bought for $50 - $60?

A. They get them for free.

B. They're quite strong.

C. They're fairly light. Not Ti light, but not really that heavy.

D. Good vision.

E. Good shape, as long they're not the New View pancake.

 

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I use the Diamond that Gerry Davis sells, and its very light. Is the Wilson that light?

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The Wilson ti and aluminum are that light. I don't see a lot of MLB guys now a days wearing the old school Wilson dynalight made from steel. Which was light when it came out but to today's standards is not that light. I see aluminum or ti or nike frames. But im no expert. 

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3 hours ago, blue23ll said:

I use the Diamond that Gerry Davis sells, and its very light. Is the Wilson that light?

The steel? God no! The new aluminum or titanium? Yeah it's about the same. My Nike titanium is lighter than its Wilson counterpart. The Wilson aluminum is about the same weight as the Diamond but I think the Diamond is just a bit lighter. 

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3 hours ago, mbkcoach said:

The Wilson ti and aluminum are that light. I don't see a lot of MLB guys now a days wearing the old school Wilson dynalight made from steel. Which was light when it came out but to today's standards is not that light. I see aluminum or ti or nike frames. But im no expert. 

Then you're not looking.  Its still worn by more than two dozen MLB guys.  And Gerry has been wearing the Diamond since last year.  This is his second season with it. 

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