BRUMP 508 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I don't like the look and I would question the protection. If you take a hit in the throat guard, you are creating leverage through your jaw to the top of your head. Perhaps maybe he is protecting himself from hits the lowest bar of the mask as well as adding throat protection. Those shots can be painful. http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23792817&c_id=mlb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
th3 280 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I don't like the look and I would question the protection. If you take a hit in the throat guard, you are creating leverage through your jaw to the top of your head. definitely changes it from a pendulum to a fulcrum. Strange now i gotta hit the dictionary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
th3 280 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 perfectly said! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fittske24 522 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Cory Blaser does this too Not quite. Blazer uses a Nike mask with the built in throat guard removed. His mask functions like a Mizuno mask. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BRUMP 508 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Cory Blaser does this too Not quite. Blazer uses a Nike mask with the built in throat guard removed. His mask functions like a Mizuno mask. What is the point of removing it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jocko 2,594 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 perfectly said! blind dog finds a bone once in awhile Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fittske24 522 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Cory Blaser does this too Not quite. Blazer uses a Nike mask with the built in throat guard removed. His mask functions like a Mizuno mask. What is the point of removing it? To allow the throat guard to swing more freely. The TG has unresricted movement and dosen't bind or clank against the lower built in throat guard bars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Hickman 211 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 That Cory Blaser rig is a terrible set-up....right Fitts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyg08 1,716 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I've been thinking about removing the bottom off of my Nike as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fittske24 522 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 That Cory Blaser rig is a terrible set-up....right Fitts? Oh contraire mon frere .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BRUMP 508 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 That Cory Blaser rig is a terrible set-up....right Fitts? Oh contraire mon frere .... You have a Nike, do you wear it that way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kylejt 765 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 I've been thinking about removing the bottom off of my Nike as well. I'd think twice before messing with the structural integrity of the mask by sawing off a section of it. Just because MLB umpires do something, fellas, don't blindly believe it's tested, or even well thought out. I've met a few of these cats, and there's no rocket scientists in the bunch. They're just regular Joes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jocko 2,594 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 I am a journeyman Millwright/Fabricator/Welder. If it's made of metal, I can build it, weld it, or fix it. The lower bars (TG portion) are not part of the integral structure. If you have them removed, the joints should be tig welded together to prevent any deformity/bending of the rest of the frame. It's not a complicated task. Should cost about $100. Someone listed the removed part of a Nike on ebay for $200. I personally wouldn't do it, not because it would diminish the structural integrity, but I just don't like it. Each his own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fittske24 522 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 That Cory Blaser rig is a terrible set-up....right Fitts? Oh contraire mon frere .... You have a Nike, do you wear it that way? Nope I wear the full nike mask. I do know some that wear the mask this way. To the points made by Jocko, there is no harm in cutting the lower bars off as long as you don't damage the lower welds. The mask will function the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderheads 3,129 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I asked Brad at All-Star regarding removing the built-in throat guard, ...he suggested against it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kylejt 765 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 A company rep is always going to tell you to never modify their product. That's a CYA on his part, and a smart one. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CentralOhioUmp30 76 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Is anyone able to tell if these guys use steel or titanium masks for their helmets (MVP 4000 or Shock Fx 2.0)? I'm just curious. I think Cederstrom uses Titanium for his Shock Fx. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kylejt 765 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 I'm not sure where you got the information about titanium not bending, That is not the case. If anything, they seem to bend more. Now, whether you think that's a good thing is between you and your wallet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
guitarplaya2007 30 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 The only advantage of titanium over steel is weight, each will bend just as the other will, i've had 3 wilson shock fx titaniums that have bent on me after taking foul balls off the mask. Steel bars bend the same, i just prefer the titanium because of weight. I wish i could still wear a traditional mask, a couple concussions and trips to the hospital later and i have to wear a bucket, however i would like to see more choices in HSMs in addition to the shock fx and MVP 4000 though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BT_Blue 1,664 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 You have the Easton and Mizuno as well as others. I have found that the MVP is the most comfortable. I just purchased the MVP2500 since it was less expensive. I might upgrade to the titanium cage when the steel one eventually bends. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stan W. 634 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 A company rep is always going to tell you to never modify their product. That's a CYA on his part, and a smart one.exactly..............its smart business.....esp when speaking to us umpires as tinkering with gear is inevitable...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BalkHawk 257 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 wearing your that guard in front of your mask only gives you extra protection against a ball that would normally zip directly beneath your facemask. The "pendulum" protects that as well as a ball that bounces up underneath the mask. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
guitarplaya2007 30 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 You have the Easton and Mizuno as well as others. I have found that the MVP is the most comfortable. I just purchased the MVP2500 since it was less expensive. I might upgrade to the titanium cage when the steel one eventually bends. I don't think i've seen the mizuno, and I don't like the looks of the older all stars mvps rawlings or any of those hsms for that matter. The 2 that i like the looks of are the shock fx and the MVP 4000 i will have to look into the mizuno though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
guitarplaya2007 30 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 oooooohhhhhh i liek the samurai g4, but there has to be a reason why more guys don't wear this... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slo8140 127 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Go all-star. The MVP4000 has washable pads. The Wilson one are glued in and can fall out. I have had no trouble with my All-Star helmet. Great purchase. Great protection. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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