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zm1283
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I know some of us won't work a game until April 25th and are bored with nothing else to do, but is it really necessary to be hateful about the guy's weight? I know the shirt thing is goofy too, but is

VAUmp
VAUmp

He could have worn the same color shirt as his partner.

Replacematt
Replacematt

Aside: lose the FED notation. R1 is always starts at 1B, R2 at 2B, and R3 at 3B.

Majordave

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I can't resist. Warren, that wasn't you in your rookie season was it?  (LMAO-Just kidding)  Glad he was/you were okay.

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Replacematt

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1) why was he in b?

2) he wasn't tracking the ball (am I wrong about that?)

3) I ride the high b or c, one foot on the turf and one on the dirt

1. Maybe there was R1. Can't tell

2. You may be on to something.

3. Deep B or C are not appropriate for this play, and are used very sparingly in 2-man.

Tksjewelry

Tksjewelry

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1) why was he in b?

2) he wasn't tracking the ball (am I wrong about that?)

3) I ride the high b or c, one foot on the turf and one on the dirt

1. Maybe there was R1. Can't tell

2. You may be on to something.

3. Deep B or C are not appropriate for this play, and are used very sparingly in 2-man.

R1 was at third. Doesn't that mean he should have been in c?

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UMP45

UMP45

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1) why was he in b?

2) he wasn't tracking the ball (am I wrong about that?)

3) I ride the high b or c, one foot on the turf and one on the dirt

He is in b because some associations allow it. I move there if there are two outs. If you have one foot on the dirt and one on the turf you are WAAAY to deep. You run the risk of being straight lined on certain plays. You could be to close on some also.

ElkOil

ElkOil

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He didn't keep the ball in front of him because he turned away from the play.  My instructors have harped on that over and over this year and said repeatedly to keep your chest to the ball or else you'll get a throw to the back of the head.  This guy proved them all right.  If he did as he should have, it would have been easy for him to take a step to get out the throwing lane.

 

And yeah, one of them was wearing the wrong shirt.

scrounge

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Newer umpires what could this guy have done better?

 

Get a better, less bombastic, soundtrack?

 

 

It did end with that upbeat, catchy island tune though...

Recontra

Recontra

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(1) Great instructional clip.  By not stepping and getting chest to ball, he lost the ball and didn't notice F-5 never gloved it and it was fielded deeper by F-6--and then turned away before the imaginary throw of the imaginary ball. There should be a comment to Evans' rule about anticipating all play possibilities but not their outcome--your health might depend upon it. There have been a couple of times where I've found myself in a throwing lane and had to dive--embarassing, but I've always been facing the fielder at the moment I realize I might be meeting my maker.  In both "B" and "C" there's a spot they can hit it to F-6, and if I start the double play mechanic and F-6 changes his mind about throwing to 2nd, I could have an "Oh, $hit!" moment. Don't know if there's a way to eliminate even that very rare event--if there is, I'm all ears.

 

(2) I believe the fashion crime was likely caused by not communicating days before leaving for the field, or even pre-gaming together away from the field. Almost everyone has at least one black and polo, and if not you'd think the association would have a default jersey that everyone is expected to have with them. And if you're new and only have one color, all the more reason to be communicating as soon as the assignment comes up on Arbiter or elsewhere.

Kevin_K

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(2) I believe the fashion crime was likely caused by not communicating days before leaving for the field, or even pre-gaming together away from the field. Almost everyone has at least one black and polo, and if not you'd think the association would have a default jersey that everyone is expected to have with them. And if you're new and only have one color, all the more reason to be communicating as soon as the assignment comes up on Arbiter or elsewhere.

The real fashion question is how the PU's pants had not split right down the back. The hideous goodyear around his hips only accentuates the amazingly peculiar lack of a backside for such a grotesquely overweight lard ass.

Thunderheads

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This could have been R1 & R3 which means "B".   I personally think he's too close to the mound, which is why he's in F6's throwing lane.  

 

1- scoot back

2- step up and turn to the ball.  If he would have faced the ball he would have seen the whole thing and he could have a) dropped down, or b) moved BACK out of F6's throw....

zm1283

zm1283

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I know some of us won't work a game until April 25th and are bored with nothing else to do, but is it really necessary to be hateful about the guy's weight? I know the shirt thing is goofy too, but isn't really the point of the thread. 

 

I don't think some of you would want video of your games posted here. 

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johnnyg08

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I know some of us won't work a game until April 25th and are bored with nothing else to do, but is it really necessary to be hateful about the guy's weight? I know the shirt thing is goofy too, but isn't really the point of the thread. 

 

I don't think some of you would want video of your games posted here.

Great point

lawump

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It is obvious that he did not see the ball being released by the fielder.  Not only that, after seeing the ball being release he should follow it for at least halfway (to first base) to make sure that it is a "true" throw.  Then he should come set for the play at first.

 

My real reason for posting in this thread...since there is a discussion imbedded in this thread about two-man mechanics...is to post the MiLB two man (red book) mechanics.

 

(1)  Base umpire is in "B" with a runner on first or with runners on first and third.  There is no changing the base umpire's starting position based on the number of outs.  (i.e. with a runner on third base the base umpire does not move from "C" to "B" with two outs.)

(2)  Beginning in deep "B" or deep "C" is never acceptable.  I know some college umpires do this if the infield is playing in, but in pro mechanics it is never acceptable.  I never use deep "B" or deep "C" even in my college games.

(3)  Per Tom Lepperd (who told me this during one of my in-season evaluations), now an MLB umpire executive, with runners on first and third, the umpire's correct depth in the "B" position is to find the mid-point between the back of the mound and the edge of the infield grass/dirt.  He is then to stand one step in FRONT of this mid-point.  This opens up the angle for the pickoff attempt at third and first base.

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Smckin02

Smckin02

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Chest to the ball... My coach when I was a kid said " if you don't have the ball ALWAYS watch the one that does". Sometimes as an umpire we have to actually move our feet.

bam

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I know some of us won't work a game until April 25th and are bored with nothing else to do, but is it really necessary to be hateful about the guy's weight? I know the shirt thing is goofy too, but isn't really the point of the thread.

I don't think some of you would want video of your games posted here.

Being hateful is not ok. But honestly, if you can't get out of your own way, someone should let you know.

This guy is obviously not presenting himself for evaluation to us, so it would be unfair to hold him up to standards we would ordinarily expect, but I wouldn't want to weigh that much and run around an infield.

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