Quick question

[tldavis19]

I had a fight in a rec Cal Ripken game last night. I ejected both participants in the fight and one of the coaches asked for a rule cite as to why I ejected both players. I know in FED you eject both participants and anyone who leaves their position/dugout except for a coach trying to break it up. I'm not sure what the exact ruling is as far as participants go in Cal Ripken. Also, is it an out for the rest of the game when that player's spot comes up in the lineup regardless of whether or not the team has 9 or more players?

[cyclonehokiece]

Unsportsmanlike conduct????

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[bam]

"There's no fighting baseball, skip" 

 

Does Ripken have their own rulebook?

[tldavis19]

@bam Yes they do lol

 

@cyclonehokiece and 15 yards right? sorry, couldn't resist. I have searched .pdf's and can't find the exact rule to back myself up on ejecting both players other than they were both participants in the fight.

[LRZ]

I don't think "fighting" appears in the OBR book. But I came across this language, from a youth league website: "The LSO Youth Baseball Association is affiliated with Babe Ruth League, Inc., which includes the Cal Ripken Baseball (formerly Bambino) league. These organizations have adopted the Official Baseball Rules, published by the Commissioner of Baseball, as their primary playing rules." If OBR governs Ripken ball unless there's some modification, then, as cyclonehokiece suggested, OBR 9.01 (a), © and (d); (d) is the "unsportsmanlike conduct" language. 

[tldavis19]

That's probably the best reference for the situation. I was just hoping there was something that specifically mentioned fighting so I could have something to reference. 

[SoCal Lurker]

That's probably the best reference for the situation. I was just hoping there was something that specifically mentioned fighting so I could have something to reference. 

 

WTF.  The coach thinks a player shouldn't be ejected for fighting?  Huh?!?!?

[grayhawk]

Reading the other post, I would guess the coach didn't want his player, who defended himself after the other player tackled him, to be ejected.  Not an unreasonable stance from the coach's point of view.

[LRZ]

"A player involved in a confrontation while remaining at his position and judged to have been defending himself and not contributing to the incident will not be ejected, fined or suspended." 2014 PBUC 9.18, On-Field Behavior Policy (page 110).

 

From that other thread, "The catcher ends up wrapped around the offensive players ankles trying to bring him down and it was on. The taller kid ends up on top of the smaller kid pushing his face into the ground." Maybe a HTBT to judge whether the runner was defending or contributing, but we'd probably call this, in my day job, simple assault by mutual consent.

[Jocko]

@tldavis19 - what age group was this?

[renegadewolf]

How about "This isn't hockey coach..."

[tldavis19]

@tldavis19 - what age group was this?

@Jocko 11/12 year old

[tldavis19]

The offensive coach didn't want his player ejected because he didn't start it. He may not of started the fight, but he 100% participated and earned his ejection.

[cyclonehokiece]

How about "This isn't hockey coach..."

That probably only works well in Canadia

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[Rich Ives]

And oh by the way - you just put in an eligible sub to replace the ejected player - same as any other ejection.

 

And if Ripken is playing OBR they cannot continue with only 8 players.