Partner makes call from the plate on play at first

[ump570]

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[cyclonehokiece]

Sounds like he dropped the ball and made some "semi-good" excuse to try to get a coach to buy it (which it sounds like was a no-go). What did you guys do during the game, live with the original out call or the safe call (I imagine you have to live with the safe). Sounds like we had clunker, he will probably never do it again, and you won't as well. We learn from our mistakes, we just hope they are never this bad. And for your assignor chewing you out, yeah, you deserved some grief, but if this was one bad play, was that a little over the top or is this one of the UIC's that has to make coaches happy and had to do this to save face?

[Replacematt]

A. Go with the out call, unless you have a good reason to think he's right. It's YOUR call.

B. Why is your assignor chewing YOUR ass? You didn't do anything wrong.

[Rich Ives]

A. Go with the out call, unless you have a good reason to think he's right. It's YOUR call.

B. Why is your assignor chewing YOUR ass? You didn't do anything wrong.

It's not clear whether one or both got chewed as "us" was used and sometimes people use it correctly and sometimes they mean "me".

[Dannytheman]

Damn stupid shame. PU has no over rule here. He can call time, and ask to talk to you, and then IF needed, runners can be placed.

I would have a serious issue with a PU doing this to me.

I would be asking him to dinner to discuss the basics soon.

[cyclonehokiece]

Damn stupid shame. BU has no over rule here. He can call time, and ask to talk to you, and then IF needed, runners can be placed.

I would have a serious issue with a BU doing this to me.

I would be asking him to dinner to discuss the basics soon.

You mean PU, but it doesn't really matter. I would be hopping mad if anyone overruled me.

[Dannytheman]

Damn stupid shame. BU has no over rule here. He can call time, and ask to talk to you, and then IF needed, runners can be placed.

I would have a serious issue with a BU doing this to me.

I would be asking him to dinner to discuss the basics soon.

You mean PU, but it doesn't really matter. I would be hopping mad if anyone overruled me.

Yes, thank you. Corrected!

[Thunderheads]

I sure as hell hope you had a nice long post game discussion on how that will NEVER, EVER, EVER happen again!

[basejester]

Maybe he saw this done in the MLB?

[BRUMP]

Maybe he saw this done in the MLB?

could be

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24485885&source=MLB&gid=2012_09_04_colmlb_atlmlb_1

[law_reb]

Notice in the video how the home plate umpire at least called "time" first. If that was done in the case of the original poster you wouldn't have to worry about the base runners advancing/getting called out on the play as well.

[mstaylor]

What happened to the OP?

[basejester]

Moderator overruled OP.

[Jocko]

I put some serious thought into this before voicing my opinion. The outcome of the play must be safe. If you try to stick with BUs call, the OT will surely ask for appeal, knowing the outcome. How could you not grant the appeal?

What to do with the runners? There's the smelly end of the stick.

1. Play stands

How can you do this, seeing as the crew gave OT an unfair advantage?

2. Put runners back retroactively calling time

No rule support, but probably the right thing to do. But we can't right wrongs by rewriting rules as we go. In OBR, would you invoke 9.01© to try to assuage the taste of the SH*#burger?

Quite a conundrum

[BRUMP]

I put some serious thought into this before voicing my opinion.

First time for everything.

[Jocko]

I put some serious thought into this before voicing my opinion.

First time for everything.

well played, Mauer

[Replacematt]

I put some serious thought into this before voicing my opinion. The outcome of the play must be safe. If you try to stick with BUs call, the OT will surely ask for appeal, knowing the outcome. How could you not grant the appeal?

Easy. It's your call, not PU's. They can, to put it eloquently, go F*#K themselves. So can PU, for that matter.

[Jocko]

I put some serious thought into this before voicing my opinion. The outcome of the play must be safe. If you try to stick with BUs call, the OT will surely ask for appeal, knowing the outcome. How could you not grant the appeal?

Easy. It's your call, not PU's. They can, to put it eloquently, go F*#K themselves. So can PU, for that matter.

it's your call and a complete sh*thouse, but are you saying you wouldn't grant the legitimate appeal on a pull? Would you normally?

[cyclonehokiece]

I put some serious thought into this before voicing my opinion. The outcome of the play must be safe. If you try to stick with BUs call, the OT will surely ask for appeal, knowing the outcome. How could you not grant the appeal?

Easy. It's your call, not PU's. They can, to put it eloquently, go F*#K themselves. So can PU, for that matter.

it's your call and a complete sh*thouse, but are you saying you wouldn't grant the legitimate appeal on a pull? Would you normally?

That is my contention, you have to live with safe, partner let cat out of the bag, can't put it back in.

Get ready for possible ejection in either case in this situation.

[Replacematt]

I put some serious thought into this before voicing my opinion. The outcome of the play must be safe. If you try to stick with BUs call, the OT will surely ask for appeal, knowing the outcome. How could you not grant the appeal?

Easy. It's your call, not PU's. They can, to put it eloquently, go F*#K themselves. So can PU, for that matter.

it's your call and a complete sh*thouse, but are you saying you wouldn't grant the legitimate appeal on a pull? Would you normally?

Please read the whole thread.

[mstaylor]

Am I the only one not seeing the OP? I would weigh in if I knew the sitch.

[cyclonehokiece]

Am I the only one not seeing the OP? I would weigh in if I knew the sitch.

OP deleted it. Basically OP as BU calls out, PU without getting asked goes safe off the bag. Rest of the story is a little fuzzy, but there were runners running the bases afterwards and craziness ensues.

[Jocko]

2 on 2 out. BU from C calls BR out. DT starts leaving field. HP hollers something like Off the bag. Safe! Without appeal. Leading runner scores, trailing runner out at the dish. If I remember correctly.

[ump570]

I meant to edit the post, and somehow I deleted it. Sorry guys.

[mstaylor]

So basically the PU missed 9.02c.