Is there a Force Play Slide Rule in NFHS Fastpitch softball like there is in baseball? What rule number? If not what are the major differences between how it is called? Can a girl go in to second base standing up obviously making the 2nd baseman throw over her to turn the double play? I know this would be an easy FPSR in NFHS or NCAA Baseball but have seen it not called 3 times in NFHS softball games this year. So I was wondering if there was a major rule difference that I was unaware of. Thanks.
Take a look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMYejsgJCmk&feature=related
This was obviously a few years ago. Has the FPSR changed in NCAA in recent years? I haven't been at this long enough to know either way. F1 sliding past second base is not illegal now, but was it before? The announcers are basically claiming that the FED slide rule was in effect at this time and F1 should be out for interference. (I know, announcers are clueless)
Also, do you have interference for F1 grabbing at the backside of the pivot man on the double play? I didn't think he touched him at first, but they eventually showed an angle and he did make slight contact.
On a ground ball when the defense is trying to turn a double play, how do we rule on a runner that doesn't slide? Obviously by rule they are not required to slide, but is there any good rule or guidance on where we draw the line and say they interfered with a throw for an attempted double play?
I've always taken the approach that if the runner is in the immediate vicinity of the base and alters play it could be interference. Otherwise, I figure the fielder has ample opportunity to make a quality throw without being affected by the runner.
I don't find any examples of this type of play in the Case Book, but if I've missed something, please point me in the right direction.
I am confused about the ruling on these two plays from BRD. I hope it's OK to post these:
*Play 170-329:FED only. R1 moving on the pitch. B1 hits to the shortstop, who tries - not in time - for the out at second. The second baseman throws the ball to first, after which R1 pops-up on the base, jostling the fielder. Ruling: Though the contact occurred after the throw and did not alter the play, it resulted from an illegal slide: Both R1 and B1 are out.
*Play 173-229: R1 stealing. B1 grounds slowly to F6, whose throw to second is not in time. R1 then executes a pop-up slide while F6 is on top of the base, preventing the second baseman from throwing to first. Ruling: (EXPANDED) In Fed/OBR, R1 is out, but B1 goes to first.
**(ADDED) Note 321: Since R1 beat the throw, no double play is possible. In FED/OBR, then, only the interfering runner can be out. It's simply interference by a runner (one is out), not a retired runner (two would be out).
These two plays are very close to being the same. In the first play, it does not state whether or not B1 was thrown out on the play, but if R1 committed an illegal slide, then it wouldn't matter - B1 is out regardless. Note 321 is very confusing, however, because it says that "since R1 beat the throw" - this is the case in both plays.
Also, in the first play, there was contact but the play was NOT altered. In the second play, there was no contact but the play WAS altered.
Can anyone shed some light on this? Also, I would recommend BRD to anyone and everyone who is serious about learning the rules - even if you only umpire under one jurisdiction. It's a fantastic piece of work.