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beerguy55

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  1. I didn't immediately go to "umps were on the take"...frankly, it would be too blindingly obvious...but it's not just a bad "blink" moment...it's a blink moment for TWO umpires at the same time...that's what makes it so horrendous...and unlike many of the other "worst call" videos out there, these guys are paid to do this. For me it's either this one, or the high school softball one a couple of years ago where the foul ball was followed by an overthrow, and all baserunners were allowed to score...and all three umpires got together and ruled that the play was correct (all while the batter who hit the foul ball was still in the batter's box and then resumed her at bat) - the only thing that drops this one a notch is those umps still are amateurs. Educate us...I think I understand what he's saying...he's simply wrong...with the exception of "more" his fear is unfounded...gambling has always been there....legal gambling has always been there...Christ, the NFL has built their schedule and their injury reporting rules around it. With the exception of accessibility the federal reversal is not going to change anything around the impact of gambling on the game, or the safety of the players or officials. Gambling was there before, it's here now....just more. One of the biggest reasons instant replay was brought into all the major sports was the influence of the gambling industry....that was long before any federal ban was addressed...let alone that 95% of the world's population lives outside the US. May not have been as big a gambling market as soccer, but there always was international betting on MLB/NFL/NBA/NHL games. You can also look to the history of international betting on international sporting events to show his fears are unfounded. Anything he believes will happen was already happening.
  2. FIFA has banned at least one referee for taking bribes. It's going to be more difficult with sports that have more officials on the field/floor, because one official can only do so much in most sports...and even more difficult now that instant replay can undo a lot of wrongs. The one gap in baseball is certainly balls/strikes. I suspect it's more prevalent at lower levels, where there is still gambling on outcomes, but the reality is it has always been easier to bribe the players, especially less paid ones, like the late 70's Boston College point shaving scheme....or boxing. 1919 White Sox aside, baseball is also harder to fix because it's typically win/lose...and that can raise flags. Football and basketball offer a much easier approach to simply making sure one team doesn't cover the spread...that's harder to detect...and people get less antsy about it because oftentimes the "right" team still won. Outside that, prop bets are just too difficult to influence...the nefarious types who want to fix sporting events want easy. Then of course there was the figure skating judging fiasco of the 90's that came to a head in the SLC Olympics - where blocks of judges agreed to predetermined placings to help each other's countries out - not a result of gambling though.
  3. Really? Which rule set? Do they just use the LL baseball rule? I've never played/coached in a softball league or tourney where leaving early wasn't an immediate dead ball with runner out. Even slow pitch beer leagues.
  4. Unless the interference is a result of the runner being hit by the batted ball. (a)  The Official Scorer shall credit a batter with a base hit when: (5) a fair ball that has not been touched by a fielder touches a runner or an umpire, unless a runner is called out for having been touched by an Infield Fly, in which case the Official Scorer shall not score a hit;
  5. beerguy55

    Bases loaded

    The umpire is one of thousands (millions?) of people who believe touching the base is a force, anything else is not. Not all forces touch the base, and not all base touches are forces. For your benefit, and the umpire's, "force" is a status applied to the runner NOT the method in which he was put out. If the runner is forced, then him being put/called out in any fashion (tag him, touch the base, interference, going out of the baseline, etc) makes it a force play, and all relevant rules apply, including runs not scoring.
  6. I spent ALL my time coaching. Respectfully disagree - the IFF for the exact reason you state...at that age, especially at the rec level, there is no ordinary effort. Beyond that, there are ridiculously small number of players who have the capacity to let the ball fall to get the cheap double play, and even fewer who could (with their teammates) pull it off. At those younger ages the IFF does indeed reward the defense, as opposed to protecting the offence, which is the true and only purpose of the rule. It creates enough confusion as it is for adults...it's chaos for the youngsters. Most importantly, the rule just isn't needed at this level. The game is more easily learned by the youngsters in stages...graduate them to the next level - don't throw it all at once. In a similar mindset, at the youngest ages I teach my infielders to throw to first on ground balls always - don't care if there's a runner on first and the easy force is there...get the basics down first, then we'll graduate to more situational play. Same with the outfield...we can dispute the age (maybe U8 for boys, U10 for girls), but the reality is at a certain age the ball hardly ever leaves the infield...at those ages we could go two or three games with neither team hitting a ball out of the infield. That is not doing those outfielders any good. If anything, it may make them resent the game, even with rotations - kind of sucks when you at least two innings every game you're not going to have the ball hit to you. Teaching those kids to play outfield at that age is virtually pointless. Sure, you could do it in practices, but it's never applied in game. And, again especially at the rec levels, your practice and game time is limited as it is, why focus it on a fundamental they don't yet need. The benefits of more at bats, more teams, more play time in infield situations far outweigh any possible benefits of some outfield drills in practices. There's time for that later. Same concept...graduate to it...you could pretty much introduce outfield and IFF at roughly 11-12 years old, and not be behind, at all, a team that had those concepts two years earlier. Been there, done that, proven it. Most kids don't have their depth perception fully formed before that age either, making outfield even harder for them to grasp, and making it less likely for them to like/appreciate it....then they hate it or resist it...or in some situations see it as punishment...or the place where you put your worst players. Once we got past U12 and into U14, if there was any residual push back, my message was really simple, as we got into more fixed positions..."yeah, I know 8 of you want to play shortstop...how many shortstops are on the field? Oh...crazy...how many outfielders are there?"
  7. Or at the very least recognize there's OBR pro and OBR practical. Agreed - no U3K until ~U12, no IFF until U14. I'd also say up to U10 shouldn't have an outfield - if the kid hits ANYTHING that reaches the grass let them do the home run trot. No need to have kids bored in the outfield and playing with flowers, no need to worry (at this age) in rotating infield to outfielder equal time...and the best part is you can have smaller rosters...kids get more at bats in games, and you can have more teams.
  8. Is your argument purely because the word "hybrid" doesn't appear in their ruleset?
  9. Less moving parts...kind of like simplifying a golf swing...less things move around, less likely to mess up timing, or the final desired position/accuracy. I encourage players just to start, and stay, in the stretch...unless the kid is a once-in-a-generation phenom he is going to spend most of his time pitching with runners on base...he may as well get adept at it. If you're exponentially weaker pitching from the stretch, your problems just get compounded when people get on base.
  10. Well, we don't have the budget to use 100 baseballs every game, nor fund a third-party instant replay review system, nor pay the $150k/yr minimum per umpire...unless Phil Cuzzi is taking $65/game and nobody told me.
  11. What do you do when a coach requests time to go talk to his pitcher, or making a sub...you wait for one of the players to call it? Anybody can request time...only you can grant it...you also don't need to wait for anyone to ask to call it.
  12. I'm likely benching him for the rest of the series. If I pinch hit someone for Trey Mancini it's not so they can walk - the tying run is on second and I'm looking for a single...and bonus, after the first pitch the tying run is on third, the winner on second... If I REALLY wanted Diaz to walk I 1) ask for the first inside pitch to be looked at again, and 2) give Diaz the take on 3-0 and 3-1. And that's the real puzzler...Diaz tries to get hit on two inside pitches and then swings at 3-0...it was a strike, but not a really high-percentage hittable strike. All in all, Diaz had his head up his ass that entire at-bat and doesn't deserve to have a World Series roster spot.
  13. I'll add that this can often be by design - I taught my players (teenagers playing club ball - as said above, context matters) to crowd the plate on pitchers who ALWAYS threw outside...they always did this because they always could, and teams just wouldn't adjust to it...and couldn't hit it. I told them "you know the pitch is coming, and you know exactly where it's going - crowd the plate until they prove they will/can throw inside." Kind of like telling your outfielders to play in until they prove they can hit that far.
  14. 7/7 but I suspect if umping were really this easy more people would do it...the biggest benefit I had (IMHO) is I'm not in the slot tucked between the batter and catcher...I think this is, by far, the biggest reason umps miss pitches on the outside corner. It's easy when you're not worried about being in the danger zone and don't have a catcher potentially blocking you.
  15. They're more like a Get Out of Jail Free card.
  16. I guarantee you, schoolyard "do overs" are a part of the fundamental fabric of our society. The mechanic is pretty universal...."NO FAIR!!! Do over!"
  17. People don't start umpiring in their 40's?? It's sounds like you're bullying a passive umpire who may not be fully confident in his role. Interrogation techniques meant to trip up umpires aren't productive for anyone...they may work in cop stations to get the wrong person to cop a plea, but they're not very helpful on a ball diamond.
  18. The umpire can use a lot of different pieces of information to make his decisions...those pieces of information can include what he sees, what he hears...how the players react...and other physical evidence that may not have been apparent immediately (famously, in an MLB game the umpire determined Cleon Jones was hit by a pitch by finding shoe polish on the ball)
  19. You can't sit on the base while the throw is on the way and say you were in the "act of fielding the ball"...the exception is there for when the fielder must get in the runner's path to make the play...or, to some reasonable assessment that the fielder is actually in the way because he's trying to catch the ball...as opposed to taking the opportunity to get in the way because the ball is en route.
  20. I don't like keeping the runner at first...there's effectively no deterrent for F1 to obstruct R1...if he gets away with it he gets an out...if he gets caught, the runner gets the base he was gonna get anyway. No risk, all reward.
  21. Whether or not it's a mistake, isn't the play dead once the umpire says "no pitch" or anything somewhat related to a directive to not pitch the ball? Isn't that a bell that can't be unrung? I'm pretty sure in softball "no pitch" kills the play...wasn't sure about baseball, or if was ruleset specific.
  22. No dispute about the announcers...but Kaiser didn't hear them laughing. I'd like to see some proof that the catcher let that happen. If Kaiser truly thought this was done on purpose he'd toss them both. He's just being a douche which was simply his MO.
  23. Ken Keiser was a horse's ass. He may as well pulled his dick out and asked for a measuring stick. Completely childish and unprofessional and MLB was better off when he didn't return in 1999.
  24. A little puzzled why the second review was "the call stands" rather than confirmed - I don't see a shadow of a doubt in the replay.
  25. The sad part is this kid was probably coached to do this - anything to get an out and to Hell with safety. (or, at the very least, was not coached to avoid it) I teach the infielders that this area is the "hospital zone" - stfo of it.
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