Player Safety & Playing 'The Right Way': Throwing Ball At BR

[Guest NJ Coach]

Along the same lines as in another thread where this forum rejects the idea of a runner intentionally colliding with a fielder just to make obstruction obvious to the umpire...mostly for safety reasons....

Is it wrong to teach a middle infielder to throw to first base but toward the head of a hard charging R1 trying to break up a DP to get him to veer or slow down ?   Here, any increased chance of injury to R1 increases protection to vulnerable infielder trying to turn two.

 

[noumpere]

You shuold teach your middle infielders to move off the base to one side or the other and then to make a "normal" throw to first.

[Guest NJ Coach]

Yes, understood....but there can still be R1s trying to take them out even if they are a couple off feet off-center.

[CJK]

Is it wrong for the other team's coach to teach his shortstop to try to hit your runner in the face with his throw?  (Hint: yes.)  If it's wrong for them, it's wrong for you.

Teach your players how to move their feet to avoid being vulnerable and make an on-target throw without regard for what the runner is doing.

[stkjock]

[udbrky]

You can disrupt a double play without being malicious/injuring another player.

[ALStripes17]

Along the same lines as in another thread where this forum rejects the idea of a runner intentionally colliding with a fielder just to make obstruction obvious to the umpire...mostly for safety reasons....
Is it wrong to teach a middle infielder to throw to first base but toward the head of a hard charging R1 trying to break up a DP to get him to veer or slow down ?   Here, any increased chance of injury to R1 increases protection to vulnerable infielder trying to turn two.
 

Teach your infielders to throw it to the first baseman. If they're happens to be a runner in the way, then *shrug*. Don't ever teach an 'intent to injure' concept

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[scrounge]

Is this a serious question? I don't think this is a serious question. It certainly shouldn't be.

[Guest NJ Coach]

CJK..when you put it that way, yes of course it is wrong.   But I do teach my own runners to slide or otherwise avoid collisions at every base.    Not all coaches do.   Middle infielders are highly vulnerable on such plays.  

 

[Guest NJ Coach]

Yes AL...you will see in the question I note "toward first base."    Am referring to instances when R1 bearing is down on the fielder and in the way of the throw.

[beerguy55]

I teach my middle fielders to get out of the "hospital zone" and throw to first - if the runner decides to put his face in the way that's his problem.  

[catsbackr]

Just a thought, but you could teach your middle infielders to throw side armed to first.  The runners will learn to get down or get out of the way, I promise.

[noumpere]

1 hour ago, Guest NJ Coach said:

Yes, understood....but there can still be R1s trying to take them out even if they are a couple off feet off-center.

Most leagues have some sort of "force play slide rule" that requires R1 to slide directly toward the base. (honestly -- maybe LL doesn't have such a rule -- I don't work that level).

[White47]

Teach your infielders to throw it to the first baseman. If they're happens to be a runner in the way, then *shrug*. Don't ever teach an 'intent to injure' concept

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Teach kids to play safe and the right way, and trust the umpire to make the call if there is interference or MC. You might not get the call, that a whole different post, but you should never teach kids to fish for calls. It only get people hurt and perverts the game.


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[LRZ]

2 hours ago, Guest NJ Coach said:

Is it wrong to teach a middle infielder to throw to first base but toward the head of a hard charging R1 trying to break up a DP to get him to veer or slow down ?   Here, any increased chance of injury to R1 increases protection to vulnerable infielder trying to turn two.

 

I'm appalled. Teaching a kid to intentionally throw at a runner's face? Even in MLB, a pitcher typically sends "messages" by throwing at a batter's lower torso, not his head. Aren't you concerned that your approach might damage the runner's vision, break facial bones or cause a concussion? 

The safety for your infielders at the expense of potentially serious injury to an opponent's head or face? That's a trade-off I'm not prepared to accept. The FPSR rule, designed to protect middle infielders, provides the appropriate balance.

[Mister B]

We teach our players to throw low to F3. It forces F3 to stretch to the ball and keeps them from throwing rainbows. 

But to answer your question, yes, it's really, really wrong. 

[johnpatrick]

I really have a hard time with you having "Coach" in your screen name and asking questions about intentionally colliding with a fielder or throwing at a runner's head.  Maybe you should remove "Coach" from your resume.

[Catch18]

Wow, the more I read this thread over and over, do I realize how f****d up this question is.


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[ElkOil]

On 5/5/2017 at 2:02 PM, Guest NJ Coach said:

Is it wrong to teach a middle infielder to throw to first base but toward the head of a hard charging R1 trying to break up a DP to get him to veer or slow down ? 

 

HOW IS THIS EVEN A QUESTION?!?

[UMP45]

On 5/5/2017 at 3:12 PM, Guest NJ Coach said:

Yes, understood....but there can still be R1s trying to take them out even if they are a couple off feet off-center.

Not under FED rules.

[noumpere]

8 minutes ago, UMP45 said:

Not under FED rules.

And not under most amateur rules.

[White47]

Not under FED rules.

Or in NCAA


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