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i purchased a champion hardshell model p200 the XL model , last year . i read a blog report , i think by midwestump ? not sure . 4 brands of cp were tested , reviewed . the champion was given a favorable opinion . i also read a comment by jim kirk on this group , about this CP . he didnt believe it was suitable for varsity HS or above . the midwestump review didnt say at what level he would use the CP , so who has used the champion and what level ? any good or bad comments welcome . if i ever get to any level of college ball , not sure what i would use . both the WV gold and platinum are too short in the torso for my size 6'5" 260 they would leave me exposed for sure .

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Majordave
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@Thunderheads   Hey Jeff,   Are you happy?  These guys researched and resurrected a FOUR YEAR OLD topic thread.   Awesome.   Way to recycle and update existing data.  I am speaking for Jeff but

JimKirk
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What you might have heard from me (I think actually someone commented from a conversation I had with them) was that due to the riveting of the shell to the padding, the padding is sucked in at those p

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kcfan102

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Paperipper17 brought up this topic a little while ago. It's pretty extensive but it'd be worth a read:

Here is the link

I have the Champion 210 model. I liked it. It was very comfortable and conformed to my body very quickly. I, however, took a shot in the should from a 13 y/o comp team and I felt it. It didn't feel good. It was worn properly and my stance was right on. That was the only problem shot I've had. I sold it to a guy I work with who was still using the ribbed ones (he has yet to pay). I bought a Platinum and am happy. But then again, I'm 6'1" 200lbs and it covers my ribs just fine. If the Gold or Plat doesn't do that for you, find one that does. I think the 17" model should.

I can't remember who said it, but one of the guys on here said that he had a buddy who wore one in D1. If it's good enough for those guys, should be good enough for you.

Plus its a good $75 cheaper....

Stan W.

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Ive seen both the champion and the pro nine and of the two I would put the pro nine as the better CP.....that being said, Ive always seen both of them as merely Honigs K1 knock offs.....

I wouldnt reccomend wearing either of them for anything over youth ball....

As far as the fact that someone wears it in a D1 contest........that is probably well and good....but I'd offer that the catchers are better up there than down where most of us call ball.....and thats his choice....

The fact that just because one person is crazy enough to risk injury does not mean I am....(especially since I know a guy who calls varsity HS baseball with only a mask).....but would I reccomend it to anyone else...absolutely not.....

I have to go to work tomorrow morning, my employer might not take is so well if I come in with a broken collar bone......

I trust my WV platinum...

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Stan W.

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The P200 is a hardshell with exterior plates unlike the K1 and similar CPs.

that certainly changes things this is the one I was thinking/speaking of....

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this champion model is literally , a copy of the pro 9 model . wouldnt suprise me if pro 9 is making for champion and putting there champion labels on it . the one being talked about (p200) looks similar to the W V charcoal model . not saying that the padding is exactly the same but very close .

Paperipper17

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that certainly changes things this is the one I was thinking/speaking of....

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I'm not sure but I think that's the p180...the 200 is a hardshell, 17 inches. Still waiting for mine to come in, but I've heard good things.

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Scobes , have u taken any hard shots yet ? what level of ball are u working ?

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JoHart10

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I bought a Champion P220(older velcro attached model) this offseason as a backup to my Wilson Platinum. I am hoping it can handle H.S. pitching well this summer as I will be using it exclusively due to a 3rd degree shoulder separation that I experienced about a month ago.  Both my Champion and Platinum have a Delta flex harness so fit is not an issue, but I am having to use the Champion because the additional downward weight on the trap area is just to great to be comfortable with the Platinum. Hoping this lightweight, low profile option does the trick. Anyone who wants to put my mind at ease...feel free to chime in.

TStokes97

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I bought a Champion P220(older velcro attached model) this offseason as a backup to my Wilson Platinum. I am hoping it can handle H.S. pitching well this summer as I will be using it exclusively due to a 3rd degree shoulder separation that I experienced about a month ago. Both my Champion and Platinum have a Delta flex harness so fit is not an issue, but I am having to use the Champion because the additional downward weight on the trap area is just to great to be comfortable with the Platinum. Hoping this lightweight, low profile option does the trick. Anyone who wants to put my mind at ease...feel free to chime in.

I have the P200 its a geat cp, Its light, but strong, only negative is if I don't tighten it enough it makes me look like I have breasts,
gnhbua93

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I bought a Champion P220(older velcro attached model) this offseason as a backup to my Wilson Platinum. I am hoping it can handle H.S. pitching well this summer as I will be using it exclusively due to a 3rd degree shoulder separation that I experienced about a month ago.  Both my Champion and Platinum have a Delta flex harness so fit is not an issue, but I am having to use the Champion because the additional downward weight on the trap area is just to great to be comfortable with the Platinum. Hoping this lightweight, low profile option does the trick. Anyone who wants to put my mind at ease...feel free to chime in.

@JoHart10 where you get it from?

Majordave

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@Thunderheads

 

Hey Jeff,

 

Are you happy?  These guys researched and resurrected a FOUR YEAR OLD topic thread.

 

Awesome.   Way to recycle and update existing data.  I am speaking for Jeff but I know he is proud.  Member of the Month nomination for JoHart10?

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Jocko

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I have a P210 and have worn it in showcases (some throwing 90+) and HSV and I HAVE taken some serious shots. While not as ARMOR PLATED as my WVG, I trust it.

gnhbua93

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These things are on eBay all time, with a "or best offer". He takes $5 off his offer price, which makes these an outstanding value.

The riveted version, not the velcro version is what he sells.  There was a time that he put the velcro version photo on his auction.

JimKirk

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i purchased a champion hardshell model p200 the XL model , last year . i read a blog report , i think by midwestump ? not sure . 4 brands of cp were tested , reviewed . the champion was given a favorable opinion . i also read a comment by jim kirk on this group , about this CP . he didnt believe it was suitable for varsity HS or above . the midwestump review didnt say at what level he would use the CP , so who has used the champion and what level ? any good or bad comments welcome . if i ever get to any level of college ball , not sure what i would use . both the WV gold and platinum are too short in the torso for my size 6'5" 260 they would leave me exposed for sure .

 

What you might have heard from me (I think actually someone commented from a conversation I had with them) was that due to the riveting of the shell to the padding, the padding is sucked in at those places (unlike the Velcro'd Wilson products) to where you have less padding where it is riveted. This makes the Champion, in general, less protective than the Gold and Platinum, albeit still more protection, IMO, than other non-hard shell CPs.

 

At a perspective of what level to wear it, the Champion hardshell is worn quite often at the minor league level. Those guys really like the hard shell protection with a lower profile at a great price compared to other hard shells.

 

In your case, however, the Wilson Gold and Platinums are not as protective as the Champion because it doesn't cover you completely. So, if I made a specific recommendation for you, something with the most protection, I'd suggest the Champion is certainly worth a try among the products that we carry.

 

Thinking about other brands of the hard-shell variety (or with the level of protection it seems you are looking for), I am not as familiar with the Schutt CP or its sizing, but that would be the only other one I'd consider off the top of my head.

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I bought a Champion P220(older velcro attached model) this offseason as a backup to my Wilson Platinum. I am hoping it can handle H.S. pitching well this summer as I will be using it exclusively due to a 3rd degree shoulder separation that I experienced about a month ago.  Both my Champion and Platinum have a Delta flex harness so fit is not an issue, but I am having to use the Champion because the additional downward weight on the trap area is just to great to be comfortable with the Platinum. Hoping this lightweight, low profile option does the trick. Anyone who wants to put my mind at ease...feel free to chime in.

 

Ok. I just realized my response was based on the original post years ago. JoHart10, If you are looking to put your mind at ease, hopefully my post just before this does that for you. Good luck!

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JoHart10

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Modification to this CP: removed the neck pad with a scissors cutting along the seam to allow the plastic to move closer to the neck and provide better protection.

I have this cp as a backup to my retrofitted WVP, have always liked it but after this modification I really like it! image.thumb.jpg.2809e4f1f7fcdf42da060069image.thumb.jpg.bbcd7727ca0128dbfe8825ed

Tksjewelry

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Modification to this CP: removed the neck pad with a scissors cutting along the seam to allow the plastic to move closer to the neck and provide better protection.

I have this cp as a backup to my retrofitted WVP, have always liked it but after this modification I really like it! image.thumb.jpg.2809e4f1f7fcdf42da060069image.thumb.jpg.bbcd7727ca0128dbfe8825ed

Nice modification! I love how high on your collar that is. I haven't been able to find anything to really cover my collar bones. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
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