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Here's all you need to know about parents.  An assigner friend of mine was attending a community college game to check on some umpires when a D1 coach he knew passed by and said hello.  After a short conversation, my assigner friend asked the D1 coach whom he was there to see.  "I'm not here to watch the player I'm interested in, I'm here to watch his parents."

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5 hours ago, BigBlue4u said:

Here's all you need to know about parents.  An assigner friend of mine was attending a community college game to check on some umpires when a D1 coach he knew passed by and said hello.  After a short conversation, my assigner friend asked the D1 coach whom he was there to see.  "I'm not here to watch the player I'm interested in, I'm here to watch his parents."

 

This is becoming more and more true.  There was a girl who my daughter played volleyball with in high school.  Her mom was a suck-up to the local community college coach (who coached a club team my daughter played on) trying to get her daughter a scholarship.  When it came time, she went to the school but didn't end up playing volleyball.  I was friends enough with him to ask what happened.  He said, "No way would I take her after getting to know her mom."

Example #2 ... I was working a softball college showcase.  A college coach I kind of knew was leaving as I was walking into the park for the day.  I made a comment like, "You're leaving awful early."  After telling me I was getting there late (hey, I didn't assign this! 😁) he said, "Yeah, I came to see a player we were interested in."  I asked if the team had already played and he said, "No, but I saw what I needed to see when her dad was wheeling her bag in for her."  'Nuff said.

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I used to be a NASCAR official.   One day they asked if I could officiate at a go cart race held at the NASCAR track.   I learned that the only thing worse than driver's arguing with you is driver's parents arguing with you.    I politely told him that I didn't know what he was used to at other tracks, but this is a NASCAR facility and if he didn't get back to his seat, I would have that nice police officer over there escort him and his kid out of the facility.

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On 3/25/2023 at 10:46 AM, Simply The Best said:

I'm a Virginia Tech grad, as the username/logo indicates.  As such, my favourite coaches are usually whoever's leading a VT team - and right now, I'm pushing for Kenny Brooks of the women's BB team to be given one of Virginia's Senate seats - but I will tell you, that video made me a BIG Frank Martin fan - whether it's at UMass, or wherever he coaches - for life.  Not just for having that attitude, but spending time on a mic, in front of cameras, SAYING it.

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On 3/27/2023 at 8:23 AM, ErichKeane said:

Not particularly related to the topic at hand, but "Check your phone blue, you've missed a bunch of calls!" is a good one. I've not heard that one before.

Though, my favorite is: "Kick your dog blue, he's lying to ya!".

On the flip side, if it is a person you can have some fun back with ...

"Sorry I missed that one, but I've been doing better since I found a place to buy my rulebooks in braille!"

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The more I hear Big Frank speak on these topics the more I respect him.  He says it as it is, each situation is different and needs to be treated as such.  And parents need to let their kids play, coaches coach, and officials officiate.

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I'm a big fan of Frank. 

For those interested here is an update on his team. 1/3 of it entered the portal. I'm sure it is complex but seems to speak to the lack of interest in playing for him. That's unfortunate.

Six UMass players have entered the transfer portal in the past three weeks, including All A-10 rookie team member R.J. Luis on Tuesday. Four players predated Martin’s arrival: Noah Fernandes, T.J. Weeks Jr., Dyondre Dominguez and John Kelly, while Luis and former top-50 recruit Tafara Gapare signed with Martin and departed after one year in Amherst.

https://www.gazettenet.com/UMass-basketball-Frank-Martin-reflects-on-season-transfer-portal-50508862

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I quit umpiring (Little League) because of the disgusting behavior shown by parents (and come coaches) all over town.

I don't need the aggravation.

Most of these toads learn their rules from "Calvin Ball" and don't get it right when they yell at you through the fence.

Mike

Las Vegas

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13 hours ago, Vegas_Ump said:

Most of these toads learn their rules from "Calvin Ball" and don't get it right when they yell at you through the fence.

 

Just this past Monday, I mosied my way behind the backstop to watch my son pitch.  I overheard, well, a Barbara yelled it, that the pitch was 'way over the belt' and it should have been a ball.  I bit my tongue and chuckled. I almost complemented the umpire for getting that top of the zone strike, but, I was sneaking into the other team's territory.

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15 hours ago, Vegas_Ump said:

I quit umpiring (Little League) because of the disgusting behavior shown by parents (and come coaches) all over town.

I don't need the aggravation.

Most of these toads learn their rules from "Calvin Ball" and don't get it right when they yell at you through the fence.

Mike

Las Vegas

I'm with you, did the same thing. It's not that much better in older ball but at least the players, parents and coaches have had a few more years to muddle through the rules...or at least as they think they understand them.

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I had one very simple statement for my players' parents who wanted to get out of line..."I can't bench YOU".   "I can't make YOU run 100 laps".

I and the other coaches signed a code of conduct, and a commitment/promise to the parents/players.

My players signed a code of conduct.

My parents signed a code of conduct.  And that code very clearly explained their poor behavior could be reflected by their child's play time.

And I only had to do it with two parents..."you can go sit in the parking lot while your kid plays...or you can stay here and watch every other kid play and your kid get splinters in their ass - your choice"

Yup, I made innocent kids pay for their parents' indiscretion.   They decided to use their kids as a shield...I called their bluff.  I also know it wasn't me the kids were angry at in their car ride home.

If I don't do this, then I'm fostering their bad behavior...whether that's abuse towards me, my players, other players, or the umpires.  The coach's job is to shut it down in any way they must.  If they don't, they're complicit.

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