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I put the "attempt to put out" occuring when the runner is pretty much stasnding centered in the RH batter's box. That's even with and maybe 3' to the left of the center of the plate. His shenanigans then take him beyond the catcher's box, which is 8' from the plate and then back around the corner of the box before the catcher recovers enough to make another tag attempt. Both of those points are well over 3' from the center of the batters box to the plate. The oversliding is still well right of the basepath by twice the allowable distance.

Brennan Miller told him to go see O-Shag-Hennessey. You done screwed up A-A-Ron.

They've been using IR to determine if the ball hit the bat or the batter's pads in cricket for a while now, those silly leg-before-wicket British people.

Anybody hear from Lindsey or anybody at CCS? I know they kind of go dormant in the off-season, but usually they're awake by now.

Yep, try not to take it personally and get help. I was a NASCAR official for years at a local Saturday night track. I was asked to officiate a go kart race held at our track one weekend. I knew racecar drivers and crew were problematic, but I wasn't prepared for "driver's parents." After one came up to me midrace, I calmly pointed out to him "I don't know what facilities are you are used to running on, but this is a NASCAR track, and if you don't get back behind the wall, I'm going to have that nice police officer over there escort both you and your son off the premises."

The line is in fair territory. If the first touch of the ball is when it is over the line, it is fair. It matters not, as noumpere says, where the player is standing, nor where the ball goes after he touches it.

I found a book called "How to deal with people who make your life miserable." I kept it in my office and would periodically take it out and start reading it when some people insisted on dropping in.

You got me hooked.

We are all honorable men here. We do not have to give each other assurances as if we were lawyers.

The tag must be made with the glove or the hand securely possessing the ball. If he's juggling the ball, he's not securely possessing it nor if the act of makign the tag dislodges it. There's no rule as to how long after the tag is made he must retain possession, just that he holds it long enough to show he has complete control. Of course, if he catches it after the bobble and touches the runner again before the runner is back on the bag, it's still out.

How is that different from any judgment call you make?

Looked to me that he was avoiding the tag. How's this much different than the guy who prolongs a rundown to let his teammate score.

There's no obligation for an "obviously going to be out" runner to not delay the attempt ot make a play on him for the advantages of his teamates. This is actually good strategy in many circumstances.

I always liked bowling candlepins. Leave the deadwood in the lane, it's part of the game

I always liked bowling candlepins. Leave the deadwood in the lane, it's part of the game

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This ain't hockey. You can't deflect the ball away from a fielder. That's interfering with his ability to field it.

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The lane provides "immunity" from interference if the BR stays within it. Once outside, it's not automatically interference, he has to actually interfere with the throw. So if in the umpire's opinion there was no play possible (or no throw actually was made), then it isn't interference. Note a couple of other things you mention. The runners lane is NOT entirely in foul territory. Even before the recent rules change, the foul line itself is in the runners lane and it is fair territory. In 2024, MLB widened the running lane to include the dirt in fair territory adjacent to the traditional running lane. The runner was also allowed to leave the lane when approaching first if necessary to touch the bag.

That photo above reminds me of the line in the Replacements. Coach, ain't that stuff illegal? What are they going to do? Put you in football jail?

NFHS doesn't have any provision for fielding a throw. Sec. 22 Art 3 is unqualified in that you may not deny access to the bag if you do not have the ball. OBR doesn't at first either (only at home).

Here's the video for those who don't have a subscription. UThit.mp4

Reread my post. I was explaining ways people get force-versus-appeal confused when they think it's defined by method of putting the runner out. I was pointing out that both tagging the runner and stepping the bag can be be used to put runners out on forces and appeals (which ever one is appropriate). I.e., the method that you put the runner out doesn't define whether it is a force or appeal.

This is where people get confused. It works both ways, too. Not all outs made by tagging the base are forces, and forces can be made by means other than tagging the base (you can tag the forced runner).

Two ground outs and two HBP in one inning are an odd record for a player.