Chicken Fest last night!

[grayhawk]

I know for me when F1 is on the rubber in the windup, and they disengage, I have to think about it and replay it in my head for a second to make sure I saw which foot he stepped off with.  I know in my head its the foot on the same side as the throwing hand for both RHP or LHP, but when it does happen, rarely, I still have to take the extra second to replay it in my head to determine if its the correct foot or not.

Carl Childress says this is a balk that shouldn't be called in the lower levels.  Not the one where F1 steps off simulating his windup, but the one where he just forgets which foot to step off with.

Edited September 9, 2015 by grayhawk

[Richvee]

Carl Childress says this is a balk that shouldn't be called in the lower levels.  Not the one where F1 steps off simulating his windup, but the one where he just forgets which foot to step off with.

I'd be more apt to let a kid go from a windup to a stretch without disengaging than I would if he stepped back with the wrong foot to reset. Personally those are two balks I call at any level, but I've had guys tell me they wouldn't have called the windup-to-set without disengage balk.

[Richvee]

Though I saw another balk last night watching the Cubs/Cards. Late innings, Cards pitcher looked like he separated the hands well before stepping off. m

Maybe it was late in a long game, maybe they missed it....But more probable..I was wrong.

[umpstu]

please rephrase  can't understand

no, ...I believe that was a hop spin over the rubber, ...didn't gain distance

To me it looked as if there was a move to come home before he made the jump step.  I think he got both distance and direction on the jump step.

[Jimurray]

To me it looked as if there was a move to come home before he made the jump step.  I think he got both distance and direction on the jump step.

Foot can't come down in the same location or part of the location where it started.

[umpstu]

Foot can't come down in the same location or part of the location where it started.

And it doesn't.  I stick by my statement.

[Jimurray]

And it doesn't.  I stick by my statement.

I have an overlap of where the foot started and where the foot ended although not in line with each other. But no ump gave an indication of a step balk. They really don't need to this year since the manager can come out for an explanation of any balk but I'm not sure why there was no leg tap. It's possible they had a throw before the foot landed as in Jim Evans video. This one happened a lot quicker. Or a double knee pop?

[Dbellyflop]

Sorry, but this just jumped into my head while watching all the balks yesterday.....

 

[umpstu]

I have an overlap of where the foot started and where the foot ended although not in line with each other. But no ump gave an indication of a step balk. They really don't need to this year since the manager can come out for an explanation of any balk but I'm not sure why there was no leg tap. It's possible they had a throw before the foot landed as in Jim Evans video. This one happened a lot quicker. Or a double knee pop?

If you take a look at the closeup of the pitcher at about the 32 second point it looks like he dips that shoulder towards home.  That's why I have what I have.

 

Edited September 10, 2015 by umpstu

[Richvee]

If you take a look at the closeup of the pitcher at about the 32 second point it looks like he dips that shoulder towards home.  That's why I have what I have.

 

I can't tell if we have a shoulder dip, knee buckle, or something else, but I don't think it's a no step balk because it looks like PU sees it and begins calling the balk even before F1 completes the jump.