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I know umpires don't do this ....but it's almost as if they looking for any reason to dump Captain Douchenstein! LOL :D

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=28875513&query=harper ejection

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/play?content_id=28875513

 

and here's the one leading up to it ............juuuuuuuuuust a bit outside

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=28884423&query=harper ejection

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/play?content_id=28884423

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Looks like Bryce needs a little behavior modification, and I'm sure the umps will oblige.

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Yeah, if I were Harper I would be bitching too.

 

He doesn't have to like the call. He has to sit down and shut up.

 

No he doesn't have to sit down and shut up.  He was rung up twice on questionable calls.  Yeah he might whine a bit too much but he plays his ass off and absolutley has the right to voice his opinion.

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Yeah, if I were Harper I would be bitching too.

 

He doesn't have to like the call. He has to sit down and shut up.

 

No he doesn't have to sit down and shut up.  He was rung up twice on questionable calls.  Yeah he might whine a bit too much but he plays his ass off and absolutley has the right to voice his opinion.

 

Absolutely 100% correct, ......

 

BUT .....

 

NOT by waving your hands and bat in the air and making an a$$ out of yourself .... there IS a difference

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Yeah, if I were Harper I would be bitching too.

 

He doesn't have to like the call. He has to sit down and shut up.

 

No he doesn't have to sit down and shut up.  He was rung up twice on questionable calls.  Yeah he might whine a bit too much but he plays his ass off and absolutley has the right to voice his opinion.

 

Absolutely 100% correct, ......

 

BUT .....

 

NOT by waving your hands and bat in the air and making an a$$ out of yourself .... there IS a difference

 

There is a difference, you are correct.  And he voiced his opinion correctly on the first one, I guess the second one just sent hom over the edge.

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No he doesn't have to sit down and shut up.  He was rung up twice on questionable calls.  Yeah he might whine a bit too much but he plays his ass off and absolutley has the right to voice his opinion.

I don't care if they were the worst calls in the history of baseball. He's out, and he needs to get off the diamond.

 

Nowhere in the rules, manuals, or the traditions of baseball is a player permitted — much less given the right — to argue balls and strikes.

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Yeah, if I were Harper I would be bitching too.

 

He doesn't have to like the call. He has to sit down and shut up.

 

No he doesn't have to sit down and shut up.  He was rung up twice on questionable calls.  Yeah he might whine a bit too much but he plays his ass off and absolutley has the right to voice his opinion.

 

Absolutely 100% correct, ......

 

BUT .....

 

NOT by waving your hands and bat in the air and making an a$$ out of yourself .... there IS a difference

 

There is a difference, you are correct.  And he voiced his opinion correctly on the first one, I guess the second one just sent hom over the edge.

 

YUP!! totally agree!

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No he doesn't have to sit down and shut up.  He was rung up twice on questionable calls.  Yeah he might whine a bit too much but he plays his ass off and absolutley has the right to voice his opinion.

I don't care if they were the worst calls in the history of baseball. He's out, and he needs to get off the diamond.

 

Nowhere in the rules, manuals, or the traditions of baseball is a player permitted — much less given the right — to argue balls and strikes.

 

Really?  Traditionally players have always let an umpire know if they disagreed with the strike zone.  Whether they do it in a subtle way or by making an ass of themselves as Harper did on the second punch out.  The bottom line is no one, except for us umpires really cares who is calling the balls and strikes.  They came to see the players play and decide the outcome of the game.  Did Harper deserve to get tossed?  Absolutley!  But whoever was behind the dish that day rung him up on two pitches that were probably not strikes, he needs to be better. 

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Yeah, if I were Harper I would be bitching too.

 

 

 absolutley has the right to voice his opinion.

 

And the umpire has a right to dump him!

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Yeah, if I were Harper I would be bitching too.

 

He doesn't have to like the call. He has to sit down and shut up.

 

No he doesn't have to sit down and shut up.  He was rung up twice on questionable calls.  Yeah he might whine a bit too much but he plays his ass off and absolutely has the right to voice his opinion.

 

Is this a rule based statement?  I don't believe this for a second, he might have the ability but to say it's a right that players have, is kind of going a bit too far.

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Yeah, if I were Harper I would be bitching too.

 

He doesn't have to like the call. He has to sit down and shut up.

 

No he doesn't have to sit down and shut up.  He was rung up twice on questionable calls.  Yeah he might whine a bit too much but he plays his ass off and absolutely has the right to voice his opinion.

 

Is this a rule based statement?  I don't believe this for a second, he might have the ability but to say it's a right that players have, is kind of going a bit too far.

 

Dude, it's called free speech, not a rules based statement. He has THE RIGHT to say whatever the hell he wants.  And the PU has the right to dump him whenever he sees fit. 

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Dude, it's called free speech, not a rules based statement. He has THE RIGHT to say whatever the hell he wants. 

 

Patently absurd statement.  Sounds like it belongs on World Star

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No he doesn't have to sit down and shut up.  He was rung up twice on questionable calls.  Yeah he might whine a bit too much but he plays his ass off and absolutley has the right to voice his opinion.

I don't care if they were the worst calls in the history of baseball. He's out, and he needs to get off the diamond.

 

Nowhere in the rules, manuals, or the traditions of baseball is a player permitted — much less given the right — to argue balls and strikes.

 

Really?  Traditionally players have always let an umpire know if they disagreed with the strike zone.  Whether they do it in a subtle way or by making an ass of themselves as Harper did on the second punch out.  The bottom line is no one, except for us umpires really cares who is calling the balls and strikes.  They came to see the players play and decide the outcome of the game.  Did Harper deserve to get tossed?  Absolutley!  But whoever was behind the dish that day rung him up on two pitches that were probably not strikes, he needs to be better. 

 

The first pitch was outside, but a pitch a left handed hitter should expect to be a strike. The second pitch was a strike, no doubt.

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No he doesn't have to sit down and shut up.  He was rung up twice on questionable calls.  Yeah he might whine a bit too much but he plays his ass off and absolutley has the right to voice his opinion.

I don't care if they were the worst calls in the history of baseball. He's out, and he needs to get off the diamond.

 

Nowhere in the rules, manuals, or the traditions of baseball is a player permitted — much less given the right — to argue balls and strikes.

 

Really?  Traditionally players have always let an umpire know if they disagreed with the strike zone.  Whether they do it in a subtle way or by making an ass of themselves as Harper did on the second punch out.  The bottom line is no one, except for us umpires really cares who is calling the balls and strikes.  They came to see the players play and decide the outcome of the game.  Did Harper deserve to get tossed?  Absolutley!  But whoever was behind the dish that day rung him up on two pitches that were probably not strikes, he needs to be better. 

 

The first pitch was outside, but a pitch a left handed hitter should expect to be a strike. The second pitch was a strike, no doubt.

 

Both were balls, period.  Umpires have a hard on for Harper.

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No he doesn't have to sit down and shut up.  He was rung up twice on questionable calls.  Yeah he might whine a bit too much but he plays his ass off and absolutley has the right to voice his opinion.

I don't care if they were the worst calls in the history of baseball. He's out, and he needs to get off the diamond.

 

Nowhere in the rules, manuals, or the traditions of baseball is a player permitted — much less given the right — to argue balls and strikes.

 

Really?  Traditionally players have always let an umpire know if they disagreed with the strike zone.  Whether they do it in a subtle way or by making an ass of themselves as Harper did on the second punch out.  The bottom line is no one, except for us umpires really cares who is calling the balls and strikes.  They came to see the players play and decide the outcome of the game.  Did Harper deserve to get tossed?  Absolutley!  But whoever was behind the dish that day rung him up on two pitches that were probably not strikes, he needs to be better. 

 

The first pitch was outside, but a pitch a left handed hitter should expect to be a strike. The second pitch was a strike, no doubt.

 

:HS

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Dude, it's called free speech, not a rules based statement. He has THE RIGHT to say whatever the hell he wants.  And the PU has the right to dump him whenever he sees fit.

First, the idea of "free speech" refers to first amendment restrictions on Congress. Doesn't apply to baseball (or most other contexts).

 

Second, I don't think you understand what a right is: if players had the right to say whatever they wanted, then no umpire would ever be justified in ejecting them. If you think the EJ was justified, then you don't think he had a right to say what he did in the manner he did.

 

Any player certainly has the capacity to say whatever he wants, and, as you point out, there will often be consequences for doing so. That capacity does not entail a right.

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I've always loved the comparison of Bryce Harper to the Justin Beiber of baseball. I personally don't like his 'swagger' but as an umpire, it's our professional duty not to bring our personal preferences against or for players into a ball game. Both pitches were right on the corner of the plate. I've seen pitches another inch or two off called for strikes in the last postseason and World Series games. Those pitches weren't even close to being balls. 

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I've always loved the comparison of Bryce Harper to the Justin Beiber of baseball. I personally don't like his 'swagger' but as an umpire, it's our professional duty not to bring our personal preferences against or for players into a ball game. Both pitches were right on the corner of the plate. I've seen pitches another inch or two off called for strikes in the last postseason and World Series games. Those pitches weren't even close to being balls. 

:HS

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I've always loved the comparison of Bryce Harper to the Justin Beiber of baseball. I personally don't like his 'swagger' but as an umpire, it's our professional duty not to bring our personal preferences against or for players into a ball game. Both pitches were right on the corner of the plate. I've seen pitches another inch or two off called for strikes in the last postseason and World Series games. Those pitches weren't even close to being balls. 

Really?  Looked like balls to me.  And you have seen pitches 2 more inches off the plate callled strikes?  Then those were balls too.

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Second looked better than the first.  Definitely think it caught the corner with the angle coming from a lefty.  First pitch looked outside, but Harper should foul that off and get a better one.

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Dude, it's called free speech, not a rules based statement. He has THE RIGHT to say whatever the hell he wants.  And the PU has the right to dump him whenever he sees fit.

First, the idea of "free speech" refers to first amendment restrictions on Congress. Doesn't apply to baseball (or most other contexts).

 

Second, I don't think you understand what a right is: if players had the right to say whatever they wanted, then no umpire would ever be justified in ejecting them. If you think the EJ was justified, then you don't think he had a right to say what he did in the manner he did.

 

Any player certainly has the capacity to say whatever he wants, and, as you point out, there will often be consequences for doing so. That capacity does not entail a right.

 

LMAO, you are telling me that Free Speech only applies to first amendment restrictions on Congress???  Are you serious???  It doesn't apply to baseball or most other contexts???  I think we have a bigger problem here and I might have to resepecfully leave this forum.  Welll there is this and the other comment by someone saying Trayvon Martin deserved to die because he chose to live the thug life.  But that is a whole other conversation.  Maven, I have to ask this, did you graduate high school?  And if so did you pay any attention whatsoever in your civics or governemnt classes?  Because you and I, whether we are on a baseball field or in a bar, wherever have the right to free speech.  We can say what we want to say.  Now because their are rules in baseball you may have to pay a penalty for utilizing your right to free speech in a way that offends an umpire's sensibilities.  And that penalty might be an early exit from the ball game.  And to be very clear, I understand what a right is a lot better than you do. Wow, I am out.

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