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I do several leagues. Had a team on a Monday night was PU ended up dumping the HC. His assistant is the manager of a older team that plays at a different park. Thursday I am PU at a different park and he is my game. At the plate meeting I say how is it going coach? He responds with it was ok until I saw that you are doing the plate. He adds guess we are not getting a good zone tonight. I say coach you are pushing it and that's your warning. Should I have dumped him or let it go?

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If he says that to me at the plate meeting, he doesn't get a warning.  Automatic.

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I don't ever give warnings at the plate meeting. Your choice is to ignore it or dump him. I would have dumped him on the spot.

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Id have dumped him in a heartbeat.....you arent expected to carry over from one game to the next, why is he allowed to..... 

 

and I have been there.....I dumped a HC at the plate meeting of the second game of a DH. when he said "I hope you have a better idea of what a F%&(ing strike is than your partner did"............

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In my experience, coaches are quite willing to appear as friendly and polite at the plate, as possible.  They want to get off on the right foot.  If a coach acts like that at the plate meeting, that is just the tip of the craggy, massive, iceberg below the surface.  He is beyond salvation for this game.  Time for him to be elsewhere.

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I would have to agree with others he was showing you up before the game started and could have possible given the other coach the thought that he could get away with a lot. Besides once a game is over it is over move on,if you do not carry it over to another game you would expect the same from the coach.

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In my experience, coaches are quite willing to appear as friendly and polite at the plate, as possible.  They want to get off on the right foot.  

+1....i had a game where I was offered water and Gatorade at the plate meeting and 2 pitches later I had to run the same guy that said "its hot we'll take care of u"

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Things never get better as the game progresses, I agree with everyone that if he starts that way send him home right then. The game will be better without that kind of attitude. And I have ejected at the plate meeting for a comment similiar to Stan W.'s about my partner.

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I would have run him, but I wouldn't have asked him how he was doing...which led to his comments.

 

If you have had a problem with a coach before I think the best approach would be to shake his hand, give him your name, take his card and move on.

 

I hardly ever ask a coach how they are doing because it can lead to so many areas you either don't want to know/care about (players suck, field sucks, etc., etc.) or you'll hear something like you experienced.

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General rule of thumb:

 

If your subject line or first sentence starts with "Should have I have dumped"....

 

Answer:  at least 90% probability of 'yes.'  Maybe higher.

 

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I probably would have let him stay until his first outburst about the zone.

Nope, it is obvious that he is unable to control his attitude

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I probably would have let him stay until his first outburst about the zone.

Nope, it is obvious that he is unable to control his attitude

 

Agree. Sounds like an ABS ejection.

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I would have run him, but I wouldn't have asked him how he was doing...which led to his comments.

 

If you have had a problem with a coach before I think the best approach would be to shake his hand, give him your name, take his card and move on.

 

I hardly ever ask a coach how they are doing because it can lead to so many areas you either don't want to know/care about (players suck, field sucks, etc., etc.) or you'll hear something like you experienced.

I feel the same way and do the same thing...I never ask a personal question at a plate meeting. I had a coach the following day after I had tossed him the previous day and wondered what he may say at the plate meeting. The last thing I would have done is to have asked him how he was doing.

To my surprise, as the meeting broke up, he reached out his hand and apologized for the day before and admitted he was wrong.

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Asking how he is, is a perfectly respectful and innocuous greeting. To me it also says that there is no hard feelings, remember he didn't toss the guy, his partner did. If the coach wants to take a completely non-aggressive greeting and take it south, he can also take it to the parking lot.   

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Asking how he is, is a perfectly respectful and innocuous greeting. To me it also says that there is no hard feelings, remember he didn't toss the guy, his partner did. If the coach wants to take a completely non-aggressive greeting and take it south, he can also take it to the parking lot.

What you may view as completely innocuous, he may view as an opening to take it south. If it is a coach that I had tossed or my partner had tossed the previous day I'm not giving him the opportunity with a personal question. I'll be friendly and simply reach out my hand to both coaches and smile and say "Coach" and/or introduce myself to each coach. That is being friendly without asking for a question to be answered.

Again, I have been in the situation and after the greetings and plate meeting the coach I had tossed the previous day reached out his hand, apologized and said he was wrong.....It was only then I said thanks and said all is good.

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Asking how he is, is a perfectly respectful and innocuous greeting. To me it also says that there is no hard feelings, remember he didn't toss the guy, his partner did. If the coach wants to take a completely non-aggressive greeting and take it south, he can also take it to the parking lot.

What you may view as completely innocuous, he may view as an opening to take it south. If it is a coach that I had tossed or my partner had tossed the previous day I'm not giving him the opportunity with a personal question. I'll be friendly and simply reach out my hand to both coaches and smile and say "Coach" and/or introduce myself to each coach. That is being friendly without asking for a question to be answered.

Again, I have been in the situation and after the greetings and plate meeting the coach I had tossed the previous day reached out his hand, apologized and said he was wrong.....It was only then I said thanks and said all is good.

 

Don't call him/her "coach." If you ran them the day before, you probably know their name and call them by their name, "coach" comes off as disrespectful in my opinion. Also, sometimes the situation may carry over to the next day, sometimes it may not...but sometimes the coach wanted to be dumped for a multitude of reasons. Don't hold any grudges over that. Some coaches that I have ejected have told me that by doing so they gained respect for me.

 

It is what it is, what happened happened. Asking someone how they're doing is friendly and letting the coach know that there's no grudges being held. If they're truly going to hold that grudge over, than maybe a second ejection will set their mind straight. 

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Don't call him/her "coach." "coach" comes off as disrespectful in my opinion.

 

 

 

Calling a coach "coach" comes off as disrespectful?

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