Batters Clothing

[kylehutson]

Had a situation tonight that I wonder if I booted...

 

High school JV (FED rules). Home team's jerseys have large sleeves - enough that when the batter is in position the sleeves hang down about 3" below his arm.

 

Pitch comes in high and inside and barely brushes the hanging-down sleeve. Runner takes off for 1B, and I call him back and call a ball. HC argues. I said that clothing only applies if it is "reasonably well fitted" (2-40-1). However, in reading 8-1-1, it appears that that only applies if the shirt is not being worn "properly", and all the uniforms are that loose.

 

Batter ended up getting ball 4 on the next pitch anyway, so it didn't make any real difference, but I'm trying to make a learning opportunity for myself from this.

[labguy1971]

Good question, I probably would have done just what you did.  Will follow this one to see what the Vet's have to say and look in rule book myself.

[Replacematt]

HBP.

[Magic]

What are we ruling on? If you are asking if you should grant a HBP because it hits the clothing? Absolutely. But there are more factors that go into a HBP than if it hits the clothing.

Games Worked Too Damn Many

[noumpere]

HBP

[kylehutson]

What are we ruling on? If you are asking if you should grant a HBP because it hits the clothing? Absolutely. But there are more factors that go into a HBP than if it hits the clothing.

Games Worked Too Damn Many

 

Please elaborate. What other factors?

[blue23ll]

HBP, don't over think these things, you will make yourself 

[maven]

 

What are we ruling on? If you are asking if you should grant a HBP because it hits the clothing? Absolutely. But there are more factors that go into a HBP than if it hits the clothing.

Games Worked Too Damn Many

 

Please elaborate. What other factors?

 

 

FED: did he permit the pitch to hit him.

 

OBR: did he attempt to avoid the pitch.

[kylehutson]

 

 

What are we ruling on? If you are asking if you should grant a HBP because it hits the clothing? Absolutely. But there are more factors that go into a HBP than if it hits the clothing.

Games Worked Too Damn Many

 

Please elaborate. What other factors?

 

 

FED: did he permit the pitch to hit him.

 

OBR: did he attempt to avoid the pitch.

 

Gotcha. That wasn't an issue in my situation.

[ricka56]

You're asking for unnecessary arse chewing if you deny a HBP based on the batter's tailoring...why ?  You're partner should be BS because you've forfeited the umpire crew's credibility. Don't go picking boogers.

[johnnyg08]

Had a situation tonight that I wonder if I booted...

 

High school JV (FED rules). Home team's jerseys have large sleeves - enough that when the batter is in position the sleeves hang down about 3" below his arm.

 

Pitch comes in high and inside and barely brushes the hanging-down sleeve. Runner takes off for 1B, and I call him back and call a ball. HC argues. I said that clothing only applies if it is "reasonably well fitted" (2-40-1). However, in reading 8-1-1, it appears that that only applies if the shirt is not being worn "properly", and all the uniforms are that loose.

 

Batter ended up getting ball 4 on the next pitch anyway, so it didn't make any real difference, but I'm trying to make a learning opportunity for myself from this.

 

Send him to first base.  

[ZebraStripes]

unless said jersey was over the plate, I'm sending him to first base