Why have anything but a Plate Man in MLB anymore?

[mstaylor]

"Change is not the enemy....and it never has been."

 

Are you sure about that? Ever heard of Barry Bonds?

If you ain't cheating you ain't trying. If you pick on Bonds you have to pick on a whole lot of HOFers.

I don't have a problem with that. Bonds is a jerk so easier to hate but throwing the whole bunch under the bus is ok too

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[Specks]

Here's a question.  If a manager challenges twice and loses both, will it be back to business as usual (come out and argue on calls he doesn't like) for the rest of the game?  

I had read an article when it first came out that said if a manager is out of challenges he can come out to request clarification/explanation but after that if he continues to argue is subject to ejection. I've looked and can't find that exact article.

[Specks]

Also the article stated if he still has challenges he must use the challenge or face ejection if he continues to argue and not challenge. If that's true the conversation could go "Bob what's your question? Do you intend to challenge? No, then have a nice day!". May not be so bad.

[grayhawk]

Also the article stated if he still has challenges he must use the challenge or face ejection if he continues to argue and not challenge. If that's true the conversation could go "Bob what's your question? Do you intend to challenge? No, then have a nice day!". May not be so bad.

 

Maybe he can come out to borrow some Grey Poupon.  This game is going to get too sophisticated without any arguing!

[scrounge]

I'd be perfectly happy if this clown act of arguing was just eliminated altogether, ESPECIALLY at the high school level. No other sport tolerates a coach coming onto the playing field to the extent that baseball does. It's an anachronistic, unnecessary practice that a bunch of people will say is an integral part of the game but one which no one will miss once it's eliminated/reduced.

[LMSANS]

The game has changed many ways in 150 years, and it will continue to change. There are still humans playing it, so the human element is still there. Larry Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2

[Umpire in Chief]

My #1 question is judgement calls. 

 

We have a play "something" happens. 

 

In my judgement we did not have INT, In yours you would have gotten it. Is the booth going to overturn?

 

There are so many judgement calls, I'd hate to have those overturned without absolute certainty.

[dumbdumb]

I believe we will now have many more arguments over the areas that will not have IR. This means longer and more "discussions" over, and I hate to say it, balls and strikes with the umpires having to eat more crow and hold back even longer before ejecting. Of course after the teams run out of IR chances, then they will go back to having to beg the umpires to "huddle" for anything else that might happen and  to get anything overruled that is not the standard that was used during last year (pole benders, etc.), which could still be reviewed "just" by the umpires themselves.

Other than just call for a frivolous replay just to try and get back at the umpires and slow the game, they could use IR to freeze the pitcher on the mound, or give the guy in the pen extra pitches to get ready so you do not have to try that lame, injury crap that Madden did on Layne in 2012 to stall by getting the reliever warming up on the mound out of the game without having to pitch to 1 batter, all the while having the real guy he wanted throwing in pen getting extra pitches , which was the same thing that got the crew in trouble this year except the manager did not use the slick Madden "injury" excuse and the pitcher should have had to throw to 1 batter. IR will just be another way to pull another slick maneuver off.

You will also have to hire people retired umpires to review the IR's in the Manhattan office per some articles. Who the hell is retired and wants to move to New York to do this? Maybe hire a new crew and just add a week of doing IR in NY into the regular schedule. But they better hurry with whatever they are going to do to be ready for opening day. It will be here quicker than one thinks. Oh yes, and all the parks better be set up exactly the same so the less financially well off teams have all the angles covered that the financially well off teams have. It will also be bad if some other cameras are placed by TV on the field that are not part of the IR system that actually get a better angle and it gets shown on TV but that camera is not part of the IR cameras. Lot's to think about here to make things fair and equitable to all without just worrying about the expansion of plays to look at and review.

[alex7]

Not sure the "using IR to get a reliever extra pitches" will be that big of a deal.  Not like they haven't had a delay technique at their disposal all this time - pick offs, catcher talking to the pitcher, 3B talking to the pitcher...

 

Most managers wouldn't find that loss of an IR worthy of a few extra warm-up pitches.

[Richvee]

 

You will also have to hire people retired umpires to review the IR's in the Manhattan office per some articles. Who the hell is retired and wants to move to New York to do this? Maybe hire a new crew and just add a week of doing IR in NY into the regular schedule. 

You need more than one "crew"in NYC. I can't see them having a crew starting at 1PM EST for an afternoon game in Fenway, the 4PM EST game from San Francisco, the 7PM EST games from the east, and the 10PM EST games from LA and Ariz. 

[ricka56]

 

You will also have to hire people retired umpires to review the IR's in the Manhattan office per some articles. Who the hell is retired and wants to move to New York to do this? Maybe hire a new crew and just add a week of doing IR in NY into the regular schedule. 

You need more than one "crew"in NYC. I can't see them having a crew starting at 1PM EST for an afternoon game in Fenway, the 4PM EST game from San Francisco, the 7PM EST games from the east, and the 10PM EST games from LA and Ariz. 

Ah. c'mon, they're just watching baseball on TV for 12 hours...it ain't that hard...I do it all the time and I've got the marriage counseling bills to prove it.  

[johnnyg08]

It's 2013, you can't tell me that they have to set up shop in New York to watch television.

Set up in your home office, and go to work...review the plays.

[Richvee]

It's 2013, you can't tell me that they have to set up shop in New York to watch television.

Set up in your home office, and go to work...review the plays.

I had the same thought.  I can review any MLB play for you from my living room. 

[Lindsay]

Also the article stated if he still has challenges he must use the challenge or face ejection if he continues to argue and not challenge. If that's true the conversation could go "Bob what's your question? Do you intend to challenge? No, then have a nice day!". May not be so bad.

The language being considered now states that if a manager argues a play, he loses the ability to challenge it. Here's a can of worms: The latest proposal under consideration holds that if a team is out of challenges, the umpiring crew may the initiate IR review.

[johnnyg08]

I agree w/ some of the other posters. Now, for the most part all you need is a good ball/strike umpire.

With all of the replay the base umpiring has changed forever as we know it.

[BalkHawk]

Infield line drive caught/trapped with r2. We can't wait for NY to tell the fielder if he should force or appeal.

[Txump10]

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