Bunt (or batted ball) hits B/R on way to 1st

[GreyhoundAggie]

I am wanting to check my understanding of the situation.

 

This is FED.

 

B/R hits a squibber down the 1st base line. Here are my scenarios and the ruling i believe applies. Please correct if i'm wrong.

 

1) ball touches B/R in fair territory. Ruling: Ball is dead. B/R is out, Runner's return to their TOP base.

 

2)  ball touches B/R in foul territory. It is not intentional. Ruling: Ball is now foul and is dead. B/R is not out. Runners return.

 

3) B/R kicks ball in fair or foul territory (ball must have chance to become fair if currently foul) Ruling: Ball is dead. B/R is out, Runner's return to their TOP base.

 

I think that captures what I want to check out. You could possibly get a 2nd out on the Interference if intentional.

 

Just boning up on my rules before the season gets rolling.

[SnareDrum]

We just covered that last night at our meeting. You are correct on all three.

[GreyhoundAggie]

Good to know I can read.

[VolUmp]

FED

Batter bunts down 1BL.  Batter hustles down the line ... right on the line.

F1 comes over, calls for it, and F2 runs into the BR from behind, who then runs into F1, who both fall to the ground, and the BR intentionally then kicks the ball from fair to foul territory.

Whattaya got, Greyhound?

[Jocko]

FEDBatter bunts down 1BL.  Batter hustles down the line ... right on the line.F1 comes over, calls for it, and F2 runs into the BR from behind, who then runs into F1, who both fall to the ground, and the BR intentionally then kicks the ball from fair to foul territory.Whattaya got, Greyhound?

a soccer game?

[JaxRolo]

FEDBatter bunts down 1BL. Batter hustles down the line ... right on the line.F1 comes over, calls for it, and F2 runs into the BR from behind, who then runs into F1, who both fall to the ground, and the BR intentionally then kicks the ball from fair to foul territory.Whattaya got, Greyhound?a soccer game?

Hey I was going to say that!!!

[Replacematt]

FED

Batter bunts down 1BL.  Batter hustles down the line ... right on the line.

F1 comes over, calls for it, and F2 runs into the BR from behind, who then runs into F1, who both fall to the ground, and the BR intentionally then kicks the ball from fair to foul territory.

Whattaya got, Greyhound?

[UmpTTS43]

FED = OUT

[GreyhoundAggie]

I have an out. Any obstruction by the F2 on the BR does not allow him to kick the ball intentionally.

BR is out. All other runners return.

[jjskitours]

Can you give me the Fed Rule or Case Book Situation to support calling BR out. I'm not disputing your answer, I just have not been able to find support. Obviously under OBR this would not be the case since the ball would be dead as soon as obstruction occurred.

[GreyhoundAggie]

I see your dilemma jj,

 

The obstruction would normally guarantee the batter the right to first base. I think this is the way to view it.

 

Would the interference have occurred if you had not had obstruction? For example, say R1 is obstructed going to 2nd and gets hit by the batted ball. You could say the obstruction caused the interference, and ignore the interference.

 

In this case the interference was not caused by the obstruction, so the interference takes precedence.

 

That is my take.

[VolUmp]

According to OBSTRUCTION Type A (or 1), the ball is immediately dead when OBS occurs on the runner upon whom the play is actually being made.

 

So ... regardless of the rule set, the batter's intentional kick was unsportsmanlike and stupid, but does not take precedence over the dead ball.

 

NOW ... in FED ... I suppose if you ruled that his kicking the ball was MALICIOUS (yeah ... try selling that one and say hello to a great JV season), then MC supersedes OBS.

[GreyhoundAggie]

Flyer,

 

I'm not saying it was malicious, and i know that is what is required by rule for interference to supersede OBS. But it is what i would believe the best interpretation to be.

 

Had the OBS not occurred, would there have been interference. In this case no, the BR kicked the ball intentionally, the OBS by F2 didn't change or alter that.

 

This is for FED only since OBS is a delayed dead ball of course.

 

Others may disagree, but that is what i would do.

[UmpTTS43]

According to OBSTRUCTION Type A (or 1), the ball is immediately dead when OBS occurs on the runner upon whom the play is actually being made.

 

So ... regardless of the rule set, the batter's intentional kick was unsportsmanlike and stupid, but does not take precedence over the dead ball.

 

NOW ... in FED ... I suppose if you ruled that his kicking the ball was MALICIOUS (yeah ... try selling that one and say hello to a great JV season), then MC supersedes OBS.

Nice for OBR and NCAA but under FED OBS is a delayed dead ball.