Dead ball on ejection after throwing bat?

[mjdudz]

Ok, so I had this happen to me today. This kid had thrown his bat twice before, and both came with warnings. On the third instance he hit a ball, with a runner on 3rd base, to the outfield but threw his bat causing him to be out/ejected. The kid on 3rd scored. One side's coaches argued that the kid should be returned to 3rd because he threw his bat which should result in a dead ball. The other side's coaches argued that the ball was live because he hit the ball and THEN threw the bat. The umpire decided that the run was to be counted and that the ball was a live ball. Was the umpire correct here? And does an ejection after a thrown bat result in a dead ball?

[sdix00]

What rule code? What level? Is this a local rule?

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[mjdudz]

@sdix00 I was only a parent there but it was a 14u game and when I went to the league website and it only says that it uses "Modified High School Rules" and rules are "Distributed to umpires/Head Coaches". When our coach reviewed the rules he could not find any ruling on whether the ball is dead or live during this situation.

[TStokes97]

In my experience throwing the bat causes an IMMEDIATE stop of play, aka A DEAD BALL, BR is called out and if circumstances dictate a necssecity for an ejection then an ejection ensues as well

[mjr_2013]

Local rules by local fools if they don't properly address all aspects.

 

Did they expect a kid to never actually throw a bat when they made it??

[noumpere]

@sdix00 I was only a parent there but it was a 14u game and when I went to the league website and it only says that it uses "Modified High School Rules" and rules are "Distributed to umpires/Head Coaches". When our coach reviewed the rules he could not find any ruling on whether the ball is dead or live during this situation.

In HS rules it's NOT an out.  The batter is ejected at the end of play, but the play stands (if the batter reaches base, a substitute takes his place on base).

 

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[PGOLDEN88]

My association rules call for the ball to be dead, runners return to bases at TOP, BR out. If thrown with intent to injure, BUBYE!

[DVA7130]

OBR

 

Ejection is applied after play is halted. All runs/advancement count.

 

 

(This is a separate rule/ situation BUT)

 

The only way the ball would be dead is if the bat is thrown into play and interferes with a fielder who is making a play.

 

Batter is out and all runners return to TOP.

 

However, at that point the play isn't even a slung bat, and there would only be an ejection if it was adjudged intentional/malicious.