Instant Replay

[PGOLDEN88]

So we had 3 uses of instant replay today, 2 in TOR at MIN (ss), one with LAA at ARZ. Thoughts?

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/in-first-test-of-expanded-replay-call-is-upheld?ymd=20140303&content_id=68627570&vkey=news_mlb

[JaxRolo]

Did any get overturned?

[johnnyg08]

Did any get overturned?

 

 

Nope. 3-0 good guys.

[JaxRolo]

Did any get overturned?

Nope. 3-0 good guys.

Good!

[mjr_2013]

Fans started booing at one of them. Didn't like the delay in the game. 

 

From what I've seen of it, and maybe it's just me, but it comes off as an unnatural disturbance to the game... The whole headset thing with the two umpires going to a rail... That's something you see the striped shirts do, not the umpires. I hope this ends in 2014 as a failed experiment.

[Thunderheads]

It may work, it may not ..........but the video of Bob Davidson and Feildin Culbreth was painful ..... hopefully every review won't take that long .....

 

And, ...is it my imagination, or is Cubby 2x the size he was last year?  (Caveat: I like Cubby, and I'm no "thin and fit dude" but man ....)

[BigUmpire]

Will this curtail the constant "proyect my player" antics of MLB skippers coming out to discuss a clear judgement call?

That is the key.

 

If yes then the total non playing delays MAY reduce.

[Pops]

Took way too long. The play was close because of the issue of the right foot, so if he had originally called him out instead of safe, the OC would have been out there demanding replay as well. And a replay would have probably resulted in upholding the out call as well. In the video it was difficult to call it conclusive evidence one way or the other. I predict when it's that close, they won't be changing many calls. I just wish they had a quicker way of doing it.

[Mike Prince]

When the NFL started replay, it was also unnatural and had some flaws.  Just as the NFL did, MLB will work out the kinks and in a couple of seasons it will just be a normal part of the game.

 

Remember, this is all new to the replay umpire as well so there is bound to be some period of adjustment.

[grayhawk]

Took way too long. The play was close because of the issue of the right foot, so if he had originally called him out instead of safe, the OC would have been out there demanding replay as well. And a replay would have probably resulted in upholding the out call as well. In the video it was difficult to call it conclusive evidence one way or the other. I predict when it's that close, they won't be changing many calls. I just wish they had a quicker way of doing it.

 

Perhaps.  F3's foot came down in time, but there was no camera angle that showed if his foot came back down touching the bag.  I wonder if O'Nora (in the truck) asked Cubby if F3s foot touched the bag when he came down.

 

Edit:  F3, not F1

[Pops]

 

Took way too long. The play was close because of the issue of the right foot, so if he had originally called him out instead of safe, the OC would have been out there demanding replay as well. And a replay would have probably resulted in upholding the out call as well. In the video it was difficult to call it conclusive evidence one way or the other. I predict when it's that close, they won't be changing many calls. I just wish they had a quicker way of doing it.

 

Perhaps.  F1's foot came down in time, but there was no camera angle that showed if his foot came back down touching the bag.  I wonder if O'Nora (in the truck) asked Cubby if F1s foot touched the bag when he came down.

 

I think they can zoom in to get a better look, but you're right about the bad camera angle.

[Thunderheads]

I guess I still don't understand the "after the 7th inning" comment they have in the IR rule .... the manager can ask if the CC is willing to review something?  How is that different than a challenge?

[BigUmpire]

I guess I still don't understand the "after the 7th inning" comment they have in the IR rule .... the manager can ask if the CC is willing to review something?  How is that different than a challenge?

Umpires can say NO.

[Larry in TN]

When the NFL started replay, it was also unnatural and had some flaws.  Just as the NFL did, MLB will work out the kinks and in a couple of seasons it will just be a normal part of the game.

 

I agree.  Look at how it works in the LLWS.  The game continues to flow with only a minor interruption and it does fix some mistakes.  Done right, it'll be just another tool that the umpires use to get the call right.

[PGOLDEN88]

 

 

Took way too long. The play was close because of the issue of the right foot, so if he had originally called him out instead of safe, the OC would have been out there demanding replay as well. And a replay would have probably resulted in upholding the out call as well. In the video it was difficult to call it conclusive evidence one way or the other. I predict when it's that close, they won't be changing many calls. I just wish they had a quicker way of doing it.

 

Perhaps.  F1's foot came down in time, but there was no camera angle that showed if his foot came back down touching the bag.  I wonder if O'Nora (in the truck) asked Cubby if F1s foot touched the bag when he came down.

 

I think they can zoom in to get a better look, but you're right about the bad camera angle.

 

Spring Training ballparks will have bad angles, you can't do anything about that.

 

Also, once the regular season starts, it'll shift to the format like the NHL, where the "war room" in Toronto accesses the feed and makes the call. Of course, MLB will have their "war room" in New York. I liked the way they had it before, when the umpires looked at the camera angles themselves.

[Richvee]

There's no real good looks from these cameras in ST, hence the long delays getting an answer. I'm assuming (hoping) with regular season games, the crew in NY should have seen 3 or 4 good angles and maybe even have the verdict before the CC and the calling umpire get to the rail and put the headsets on. 

 

As far as reviews after the 6th inning. It does look like it's unlimited if all the manager has to do is come out and ask the CC to review. If it's close, how can the CC say no? The 1st CC to say no when the replay shows the call was wrong will be crucified by the media. 

[afaber12]

There's no real good looks from these cameras in ST, hence the long delays getting an answer. I'm assuming (hoping) with regular season games, the crew in NY should have seen 3 or 4 good angles and maybe even have the verdict before the CC and the calling umpire get to the rail and put the headsets on.

As far as reviews after the 6th inning. It does look like it's unlimited if all the manager has to do is come out and ask the CC to review. If it's close, how can the CC say no? The 1st CC to say no when the replay shows the call was wrong will be crucified by the media.

I wonder if they're allowing the managers to come out after the 6th to go through the review process more often, get everyone used to how it works, where extra cameras might be needed for certain plays, that sort of thing. Then towards the end of ST they might dial it back and shut the managers down before they get out to request the review.

[johnnyg08]

I think we're seeing way more reviews in Spring Training because managers are being asked to make sure they challenge plays and umpires are being told to (even after the challenges) that they take a look at the plays because everybody is learning.  

 

It's good that we're getting all of these reviews in Spring Training.  It's good practice w/ everybody.