Pick-off, Safe?

[Thunderheads]

Was he blocked out?

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=29436843&query=dispute

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/play?content_id=29436843

[afaber12]

I think so.

I'm not sure they would've been able to get it right if they got together either. Given the angles and distances I think everyone would've been guessing.

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[mstaylor]

Neither angle gives you the hand and tag both. It wasn't a terrible call as the announcers said, it was close.

[Thunderheads]

Neither angle gives you the hand and tag both. It wasn't a terrible call as the announcers said, it was close.

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1:04

[JaxRolo]

He could not see the hand not on the base .

[umpstu]

Awful high tag in that play for wanting to get the call.

[Thunderheads]

Ok, who had an out at real speed?

[blue23ll]

Anytime you are bringing the tag down into a runner it will be a close call, high tags are not good tags.

[grayhawk]

Ok, who had an out at real speed?

 

First time, at real speed, my reaction was safe.  It was the timing of the dive and the tag that gave me that impression.

[mstaylor]

1:16 is where he touches the ribs. If you stop motion it the hand is two inches away at best. That is not a horrible call, that is a horrible defensive play. If he hits the shoulder like he should have then it's easy. 

[UMP45]

Awful high tag in that play for wanting to get the call.

What does this have to do with anything? Another myth. If the tag is high he has to be safe!

[UMP45]

Ok, who had an out at real speed?

Did you?

[mstaylor]

After eight or nine freeze frames I got the 1:16 confirmation of out. Live, he is safe all day. If you can't execute better than that at the MLB level then you shouldn't get the out. <br /><br />Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2<br /><br />

[Thunderheads]

 

Ok, who had an out at real speed?

Did you?

 

Don't answer a question with a question ....  weren't you ever taught that?

 

But if you must, .... I did ....   (not that that means anything)

[Maineac]

He could not see the hand not on the base .

Agreed. I think Aybar screened second base from him with his body. Only call he had was safe, IMO.

[Umpire in Chief]

After further review... the call was missed.

 

But Knight had to make the call with what he saw even if it was incomplete information (And I say that based on the assumption Aybar blocked his view of the bag). We've all been there and then have to rely on our umpiring instinct. When I come down to having to make a call based on umpiring instinct this is where the "quality of play" theory comes in. The defense gave Knight an ugly play to call. The throw was so far inside Aybar had to dive back to the runner. And the tag was high. 

 

Knight was in good position, adjusted and was set, not much more he could have done.

 

Putting myself in that same situation I'd be hard pressed to call the out, and as you've seen me say before I'm one who lives by the mantra, "When in doubt, call 'em out"

[GetItRight]

Perfect angle and position on that, just a blown call.

 

It happens a lot more often than perfect angles happen.

[UMP45]

Perfect angle and position on that, just a blown call.

 

It happens a lot more often than perfect angles happen.

Once again you show your lack of knowledge of umpiring. 

[mstaylor]

Perfect angle and position on that, just a blown call.

 

It happens a lot more often than perfect angles happen.

Not a blown call, no way, no how. I will give you an incorrect call but not blown. A blown call is when an umpire has all the information in front of him and misses it, or maybe just chooses the wrong position. Here Brian made a damn good call on a blown play by the baserunner. If nothing else call him out for being stupid. 

[noumpere]

 

Perfect angle and position on that, just a blown call.

 

It happens a lot more often than perfect angles happen.

Once again you show your lack of knowledge of umpiring. 

 

But at least he brings up lots of older threads and comments on them in a meaningless way.