calling a coach "coach"

[CodyLoe15]

I was told never to call a coach "coach." The reason being is that you put your self below that "coach" he is not your coach. Your in charge of the game and he being the "coach" should respect you enough to call you by your name and you should do the same

Just wanting to hear opinions

Thanks

Cody

[DVA7130]

I am guilty of always saying that.

[James Walker]

Depends on the level. Higher level travel ball and HS and up, I'm calling the Manager by name.

Rec league, coach is exceptable. Although, I will make my best effort at calling them by name. I don't expect these guys to remember my name, they have a hard enough time remembering who has played and still needs to play.

[UmpJM]

I always address the head coach by his first name.

 

Assistant coaches get "coach", unless I know their first name.

 

JM

[Oldcrow]

As a travel ball umpire that sees teams from all over, it is impossible for me to know or remember every coach's name. As a result, I find it easier to refer to a coach as just that. "Coach"

 

I also do not look upon this term as putting myself under that person for so many reasons. I know Presidents of universities that refer to a program's coach as ''Coach"...To me, it will always be a term of respect, as well as a personal greeting.

[RC@54OUTS]

I agree with everyone. Write down the manager's name when you meet. That will help. And for most games the manager is the only one you speak to. Or the guy who comes to the plate meeting.

[Oldcrow]

I agree with everyone. Write down the manager's name when you meet. That will help. And for most games the manager is the only one you speak to. Or the guy who comes to the plate meeting.

 

 

Where I work, we see more and more players attending the plate meeting. Sometimes without a coach. Especially later in the tournament and if it is on a field that the team has played on once or several times.

This is especially popular with girls travel ball. Many times one or more female players will attend the meeting.

[guyinaredhat]

I was taught that Managers are NOT coaches . Manager of the team especially as you move up becomes a paid position . The outcomes of their games start effecting their paycheck . So to show the proper respect use their name , or skip , but not coach. Coaches are lower down the rung, and I know I don't tolerate coaches , but will a Manager.

[bam]

I agree with everyone. Write down the manager's name when you meet. That will help. And for most games the manager is the only one you speak to. Or the guy who comes to the plate meeting.

 

I always write down the managers names.  I'm terrible with them. 

[HeadHunterLA]

I try and remember names but if I forget a manager's name I'll go with sir before I go with coach.

[JaxRolo]

I always address the head coach by his first name. Assistant coaches get "coach", unless I know their first name. JM

Ditto

[blue23ll]

Yes, I write down the head coaches names on the line up cards. We get to know the high school head coaches during the season and there isn't a whole lot of turn over, so they refer us by our names as well. Now, for youth rec ball, I do write the manager's names down on the line up cards, but I probably won't ever see them again. As far as assistant coaches, I usually don't talk with them much, so I will just walk over to them and say what I have to say, and that is that.

[Kevin_K]

 

I agree with everyone. Write down the manager's name when you meet. That will help. And for most games the manager is the only one you speak to. Or the guy who comes to the plate meeting.

 

I always write down the managers names.  I'm terrible with them. 

 

 

Do you mean you are terrible with managers or just remembering their names? 

[NCAAump2]

Anything HS or above, I use the coaches or managers names, and I expect them to use mine. Anything lower than that, I try to use their names if I remember them.

[Jesse]

Saying "coach" sounds bush league to me. Respect eachother enough to remember eachothers names. 

[HokieUmp]

Saying "coach" sounds bush league to me. Respect eachother enough to remember eachothers names. 

 

Sure, that's great if you're seeing the same guys over and over again.  It wasn't until at least my third or fourth year in Virginia that I was able to start getting the names of the varsity coaches?  JV?  Yeah, right.  Rec ball?  No effing way.

 

It's not about respect - not in this case, anyway.  In my association in Virginia, I ranged from 70-95 games a year, and that was over Pony, LL, JV, Varsity, Legion, summer league, and adult ball.  I'm lucky to see the same coach/manager more than 3-4 times in a season.  I'll save the name-remembering for my job, which actually pays my bills.

[Jesse]

 

Saying "coach" sounds bush league to me. Respect eachother enough to remember eachothers names. 

 

Sure, that's great if you're seeing the same guys over and over again.  It wasn't until at least my third or fourth year in Virginia that I was able to start getting the names of the varsity coaches?  JV?  Yeah, right.  Rec ball?  No effing way.

 

It's not about respect - not in this case, anyway.  In my association in Virginia, I ranged from 70-95 games a year, and that was over Pony, LL, JV, Varsity, Legion, summer league, and adult ball.  I'm lucky to see the same coach/manager more than 3-4 times in a season.  I'll save the name-remembering for my job, which actually pays my bills.

 

Here's a tip: at the plate meeting, grab his/her name. Remember the first letter and it will come easier. For example, HT coach is named B for Bob.

 

That's what works for me.

[Mike Prince]

For some reason I may remember B as Bastard later in the game...    

[Specks]

I introduce myself at the plate meeting and give my name and get theirs. Then try to remember or write it down and refer to their first name for the game. Asst coaches are just "coach" or nothing at all. When a manager remembers my name and uses it, I am impressed (doesn't happen very often sorry to say). Managers don't have too much to do they are usually just too inexperienced (or whatever) to pay attention. I prefer to be called by my first name because it's professional and I think Blue is impersonal. It's harder for a manager to say "Greg, you're terrible" than "Blue, you're terrible".

[treydawgmt]

I TRY to remember coaches names, and use them.  I SUCK at it though.  I rarely see the same coaches, so that's part of it.  I also have a very hard time with names for some reason.  I can often remember numbers after one or two tries.  (I remember phone numbers from years ago, bank account numbers, stats, all sorts of stuff.) Names though, it takes me months sometimes at a new job to remember peoples names.  I just stink at it.  I right the names down and do my best, but I use coach or sir when I have to.

[Magic]

I always call them coach. I am terrible with names. And I REFUSE to think I know his name and call him by the wrong name. All HELL will break loose. If I know his name I will use it. I know most of the Varsity High School Coaches by name. So I will use that, but if there is any doubt in my mind it is Coach.

[catsbackr]

When you advance to HS varsity and above, it is your job to know the head coach's name.

Do your job.

[grayhawk]

The plate meeting is a wondrous time to introduce ourselves and get first names.  Then, do whatever works for you to remember them. I write them down, and then as I am watching the first couple of warm up pitches, I will run them over and over in my head to make sure I know them.  Of course, I have also introduced myself to home team F2 by this time, so I do the same with his name.  I then get behind F2 and chat him up for warmups pitches 3-6 (2 on each side).  I use his name so I will remember it better, "Brandon, what pitches does he (his F1) throw?  What's his out pitch?"  Then, when there are 2 left - "Brandon, 2 more."

 

Of course, this is all shot to hell when F2's name is something other than Brandon.  

[umpire_scott]

This is definitely something I'm going to work on.  I'm really bad with names.  Half the time I don't remember a new partners name that I'm working with let alone the coaches names.  But I have seen umpires address coaches by name and I've been addressed by name from coaches.  I do think it shows a measure of professionalism.

[Magic]

When you advance to HS varsity and above, it is your job to know the head coach's name.

Do your job.

 

There are probably 80+ Varsity High School programs in Orange County. I would say I know about 50 of the Head Coaches names. But there is nothing in any manual that says I have to know the coaches name. But if you can show me that I would love to see it. Do I know most of them? Yes. Do I feel that I need to? No.