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mstaylor

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I have a manager that had known me for many years. I went to his dad's funeral. When the game starts he will not call me anything except Mr. Umpire. It was how he was raised.<br /><br />Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2<br /><br />

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catsbackr
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When you advance to HS varsity and above, it is your job to know the head coach's name. Do your job.

UmpJM
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I always address the head coach by his first name.   Assistant coaches get "coach", unless I know their first name.   JM

lawump
lawump

I called a manager, "coach," once in spring training my first year as a pro umpire (before I had even worked my first regular season professional game).  The results were not pretty.  I learned my les

umpire_scott

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In all honesty to me the best way would be for the coaches to be referred to as coach and the umpires to be referred to as "blue" or "mr umpire".  It takes away all possible bias that could come about from communicating with a degree of familiarity that is not really appropriate in a competitive atmosphere.  I call my friends by their first name and none of the coaches are my friends when the game is going on.  I think calling them coach and them calling us "blue" or "mr umpire" keeps a level of professionalism in place.

 

 

Well obviously no one just "goes and works a college or professional game".  It's something you work your way up to.  With that being said there are many things that are different between the two.

catsbackr

catsbackr

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In all honesty to me the best way would be for the coaches to be referred to as coach and the umpires to be referred to as "blue" or "mr umpire".  It takes away all possible bias that could come about from communicating with a degree of familiarity that is not really appropriate in a competitive atmosphere.  I call my friends by their first name and none of the coaches are my friends when the game is going on.  I think calling them coach and them calling us "blue" or "mr umpire" keeps a level of professionalism in place.

 

 

Well obviously no one just "goes and works a college or professional game".  It's something you work your way up to.  With that being said there are many things that are different between the two.

 

And you learn the protocol.  That's what's trying to be accomplished here, teaching you the protocol.

BigUmpire

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I have a manager that had known me for many years. I went to his dad's funeral. When the game starts he will not call me anything except Mr. Umpire. It was how he was raised.<br /><br />Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2<br /><br />

Sounds like respect to me.

lawump

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I called a manager, "coach," once in spring training my first year as a pro umpire (before I had even worked my first regular season professional game).  The results were not pretty.  I learned my lesson; I call them by their name...no matter what level I am working.

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HokieUmp

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I saw 3 guys over this past weekend that I've seen this Spring during HS season, in earlier Summer tournaments, and prior games in this tournament .... I remembered their names and they LOVED it when I said, "Hi Tim, nice to see you again" ....

 

 

All 3 of them were named Tim?  Or did they just love being called Tim, regardless of their actual name?  Now I'm really confused....

Thunderheads

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I saw 3 guys over this past weekend that I've seen this Spring during HS season, in earlier Summer tournaments, and prior games in this tournament .... I remembered their names and they LOVED it when I said, "Hi Tim, nice to see you again" ....

 

 

All 3 of them were named Tim?  Or did they just love being called Tim, regardless of their actual name?  Now I'm really confused....

 

Hahaha ....

my comment was an example of ONE of the coaches ................ :shakehead:

HokieUmp

HokieUmp

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Hahaha ....

my comment was an example of ONE of the coaches ................ :shakehead:

 

 

Oh.

 

Never mind.

 

 

 

(do I need to add the smiley next time?)

Thunderheads

Thunderheads

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In all honesty to me the best way would be for the coaches to be referred to as coach and the umpires to be referred to as "blue" or "mr umpire".  It takes away all possible bias that could come about from communicating with a degree of familiarity that is not really appropriate in a competitive atmosphere.  I call my friends by their first name and none of the coaches are my friends when the game is going on.  I think calling them coach and them calling us "blue" or "mr umpire" keeps a level of professionalism in place.

 

That being said if protocol says differently then I guess I'll have to adapt.

 

I respectfully disagree. We as umpires are not in competition with coaches or players during a contest. We don't care who wins or loses. We are simply there to administer the rules, insure fair play, and insure the game is played in the spirit of good sportsmanship. Calling an umpire "blue" or a coach "Coach" to me is a cop-out. We only have to occupy the same space for the next 3 hours so why not refer to each other by the name our mothers gave us.  I don't have to be your friend to call you by your first name. It simply shows that you pay attention to all details be them in or out of the rulebook.

 

I saw 3 guys over this past weekend that I've seen this Spring during HS season, in earlier Summer tournaments, and prior games in this tournament .... I remembered their names and they LOVED it when I said, "Hi Tim, nice to see you again" ....

 

 

 

 

In all honesty to me the best way would be for the coaches to be referred to as coach and the umpires to be referred to as "blue" or "mr umpire".  It takes away all possible bias that could come about from communicating with a degree of familiarity that is not really appropriate in a competitive atmosphere.  I call my friends by their first name and none of the coaches are my friends when the game is going on.  I think calling them coach and them calling us "blue" or "mr umpire" keeps a level of professionalism in place.

 

That being said if protocol says differently then I guess I'll have to adapt.

 

I respectfully disagree. We as umpires are not in competition with coaches or players during a contest. We don't care who wins or loses. We are simply there to administer the rules, insure fair play, and insure the game is played in the spirit of good sportsmanship. Calling an umpire "blue" or a coach "Coach" to me is a cop-out. We only have to occupy the same space for the next 3 hours so why not refer to each other by the name our mothers gave us.  I don't have to be your friend to call you by your first name. It simply shows that you pay attention to all details be them in or out of the rulebook.

 

I saw 3 guys over this past weekend that I've seen this Spring during HS season, in earlier Summer tournaments, and prior games in this tournament .... I remembered their names and they LOVED it when I said, "Hi Tim, nice to see you again" ....

 

 

Just out of curiosity how did you know they LOVED it?  I mean you mentioned you had probably done 5-10 of their games, it wouldn't seem like that great of an accomplishment to remember their names at that point.

 

Uhm.... 5-10 games, ...where did you get that? I never said that, or insinuated that whatsoever.

 

I'm not saying it's an accomplishment to remember their names, what I'm saying is (pay attention now) THEY like it when you remember their names, it's respect.  And to answer your first question; my comment about "they loved it" was based on their smile when I said their name first ..."Hi John, nice to see you again"  (it's not that difficult to tell) .....

Thunderheads

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Hahaha ....

my comment was an example of ONE of the coaches ................ :shakehead:

 

 

Oh.

 

Never mind.

 

 

 

(do I need to add the smiley next time?)

 

:D  Nawww, we're good Hokie :hi5:

umpire_scott

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In all honesty to me the best way would be for the coaches to be referred to as coach and the umpires to be referred to as "blue" or "mr umpire".  It takes away all possible bias that could come about from communicating with a degree of familiarity that is not really appropriate in a competitive atmosphere.  I call my friends by their first name and none of the coaches are my friends when the game is going on.  I think calling them coach and them calling us "blue" or "mr umpire" keeps a level of professionalism in place.

 

That being said if protocol says differently then I guess I'll have to adapt.

 

I respectfully disagree. We as umpires are not in competition with coaches or players during a contest. We don't care who wins or loses. We are simply there to administer the rules, insure fair play, and insure the game is played in the spirit of good sportsmanship. Calling an umpire "blue" or a coach "Coach" to me is a cop-out. We only have to occupy the same space for the next 3 hours so why not refer to each other by the name our mothers gave us.  I don't have to be your friend to call you by your first name. It simply shows that you pay attention to all details be them in or out of the rulebook.

 

I saw 3 guys over this past weekend that I've seen this Spring during HS season, in earlier Summer tournaments, and prior games in this tournament .... I remembered their names and they LOVED it when I said, "Hi Tim, nice to see you again" ....

 

 

 

 

In all honesty to me the best way would be for the coaches to be referred to as coach and the umpires to be referred to as "blue" or "mr umpire".  It takes away all possible bias that could come about from communicating with a degree of familiarity that is not really appropriate in a competitive atmosphere.  I call my friends by their first name and none of the coaches are my friends when the game is going on.  I think calling them coach and them calling us "blue" or "mr umpire" keeps a level of professionalism in place.

 

That being said if protocol says differently then I guess I'll have to adapt.

 

I respectfully disagree. We as umpires are not in competition with coaches or players during a contest. We don't care who wins or loses. We are simply there to administer the rules, insure fair play, and insure the game is played in the spirit of good sportsmanship. Calling an umpire "blue" or a coach "Coach" to me is a cop-out. We only have to occupy the same space for the next 3 hours so why not refer to each other by the name our mothers gave us.  I don't have to be your friend to call you by your first name. It simply shows that you pay attention to all details be them in or out of the rulebook.

 

I saw 3 guys over this past weekend that I've seen this Spring during HS season, in earlier Summer tournaments, and prior games in this tournament .... I remembered their names and they LOVED it when I said, "Hi Tim, nice to see you again" ....

 

 

Just out of curiosity how did you know they LOVED it?  I mean you mentioned you had probably done 5-10 of their games, it wouldn't seem like that great of an accomplishment to remember their names at that point.

 

Uhm.... 5-10 games, ...where did you get that? I never said that, or insinuated that whatsoever.

 

I'm not saying it's an accomplishment to remember their names, what I'm saying is (pay attention now) THEY like it when you remember their names, it's respect.  And to answer your first question; my comment about "they loved it" was based on their smile when I said their name first ..."Hi John, nice to see you again"  (it's not that difficult to tell) .....

 

 

You said during the high school season (you would generally get a team more than once during a high school season), earlier summer tournaments (since it's plural I assumed more than one tournament), earlier games in this tournament (once again plural).  So I got at least 5, and more depending on how many times you saw them each tournament or during the high school season.

Thunderheads

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In all honesty to me the best way would be for the coaches to be referred to as coach and the umpires to be referred to as "blue" or "mr umpire".  It takes away all possible bias that could come about from communicating with a degree of familiarity that is not really appropriate in a competitive atmosphere.  I call my friends by their first name and none of the coaches are my friends when the game is going on.  I think calling them coach and them calling us "blue" or "mr umpire" keeps a level of professionalism in place.

 

That being said if protocol says differently then I guess I'll have to adapt.

 

I respectfully disagree. We as umpires are not in competition with coaches or players during a contest. We don't care who wins or loses. We are simply there to administer the rules, insure fair play, and insure the game is played in the spirit of good sportsmanship. Calling an umpire "blue" or a coach "Coach" to me is a cop-out. We only have to occupy the same space for the next 3 hours so why not refer to each other by the name our mothers gave us.  I don't have to be your friend to call you by your first name. It simply shows that you pay attention to all details be them in or out of the rulebook.

 

I saw 3 guys over this past weekend that I've seen this Spring during HS season, in earlier Summer tournaments, and prior games in this tournament .... I remembered their names and they LOVED it when I said, "Hi Tim, nice to see you again" ....

 

 

 

 

In all honesty to me the best way would be for the coaches to be referred to as coach and the umpires to be referred to as "blue" or "mr umpire".  It takes away all possible bias that could come about from communicating with a degree of familiarity that is not really appropriate in a competitive atmosphere.  I call my friends by their first name and none of the coaches are my friends when the game is going on.  I think calling them coach and them calling us "blue" or "mr umpire" keeps a level of professionalism in place.

 

That being said if protocol says differently then I guess I'll have to adapt.

 

I respectfully disagree. We as umpires are not in competition with coaches or players during a contest. We don't care who wins or loses. We are simply there to administer the rules, insure fair play, and insure the game is played in the spirit of good sportsmanship. Calling an umpire "blue" or a coach "Coach" to me is a cop-out. We only have to occupy the same space for the next 3 hours so why not refer to each other by the name our mothers gave us.  I don't have to be your friend to call you by your first name. It simply shows that you pay attention to all details be them in or out of the rulebook.

 

I saw 3 guys over this past weekend that I've seen this Spring during HS season, in earlier Summer tournaments, and prior games in this tournament .... I remembered their names and they LOVED it when I said, "Hi Tim, nice to see you again" ....

 

 

Just out of curiosity how did you know they LOVED it?  I mean you mentioned you had probably done 5-10 of their games, it wouldn't seem like that great of an accomplishment to remember their names at that point.

 

Uhm.... 5-10 games, ...where did you get that? I never said that, or insinuated that whatsoever.

 

I'm not saying it's an accomplishment to remember their names, what I'm saying is (pay attention now) THEY like it when you remember their names, it's respect.  And to answer your first question; my comment about "they loved it" was based on their smile when I said their name first ..."Hi John, nice to see you again"  (it's not that difficult to tell) .....

 

 

You said during the high school season (you would generally get a team more than once during a high school season), earlier summer tournaments (since it's plural I assumed more than one tournament), earlier games in this tournament (once again plural).  So I got at least 5, and more depending on how many times you saw them each tournament or during the high school season.

 

Whatever, that's fine ....it wasn't that many, but regardless....  it works.  Use their names, ...remember their names, period

umpire_scott

umpire_scott

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Scott give it a rest. USE THEIR NAMES!!!  :smachhead:

 

 

Give what a rest?  He asked me how I came up with 5-10 and I told him.  I've already said that I plan on practicing using their names.

JaxRolo

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Scott give it a rest. USE THEIR NAMES!!!  :smachhead:

 

 

Give what a rest?  He asked me how I came up with 5-10 and I told him.  I've already said that I plan on practicing using their names.

 

 

Good! :wave: 

JaxRolo

JaxRolo

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THIS HORSE IS DEAD! :Horse:
Yeah but somebody is still riding it!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
umpire_scott

umpire_scott

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Did an 18U tournament today.  Made sure to remember their names.  Good thing too as one of the coaches was former MLB player Scott Cooper.

Kevin_K

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Did an 18U tournament today.  Made sure to remember their names.  Good thing too as one of the coaches was former MLB player Scott Cooper.

 

How ever did you remember his name?  :smachhead:

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