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you make a bang bang call and dont take that split second to think... you call the runner out and after you do so you realize he is safe


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so i had a game the other night and im working a one man crew. the pitcher does a pick off to second and from behind the plate i dont have the best view. well he gets the tag down and i call the runner out because it was a bang bang play. i didnt take that split second to think... and after a call him out i realize i made the incorrect call (so does everyone around me). if there is no other umpire to appeal with then is there a way i can say "hold on i was wrong" and change it or do you just have to live with it.

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Attar boy! I still find myself wishing that I had attended Evans back when I was 18 or 19 instead of getting engaged to a girl that didn't work out.

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Man your 17 , shoot for more then that, attend some clinics , work HS, then work Varsity, keep working tourneys and go to pro school in 2 years, start early and you can progress really quickly with that under yopur belt , so even if you don't make the eval course you'll be ahead of th game, and in great position if you want to go back. Wish i had started when I was 13 . or even 18 .

I am shooting for more than that. HS is just the first step I need to take

Good for you. Commit yourself and start setting aside the funds for pro school.

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Man your 17 , shoot for more then that, attend some clinics , work HS, then work Varsity, keep working tourneys and go to pro school in 2 years, start early and you can progress really quickly with that under yopur belt , so even if you don't make the eval course you'll be ahead of th game, and in great position if you want to go back. Wish i had started when I was 13 . or even 18 .I am shooting for more than that. HS is just the first step I need to take
Good for you. Commit yourself and start setting aside the funds for pro school.
good call. Put up a % of each game fee. Let baseball pay for baseball.
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One thing about the OP. I usually adhere to the old " When in doubt bang him out " addage but for me this is one exception. I will go the other way on most pick offs unless the guy gets caught leaning and I can sell it. Any other time, he has to be really out. JMO, I don't know how everyone else feels about that.

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One thing about the OP. I usually adhere to the old " When in doubt bang him out " addage but for me this is one exception. I will go the other way on most pick offs unless the guy gets caught leaning and I can sell it. Any other time, he has to be really out. JMO, I don't know how everyone else feels about that.

 

 

Especially when working 1 man.

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so i had a game the other night and im working a one man crew. the pitcher does a pick off to second and from behind the plate i dont have the best view. well he gets the tag down and i call the runner out because it was a bang bang play. i didnt take that split second to think... and after a call him out i realize i made the incorrect call (so does everyone around me). if there is no other umpire to appeal with then is there a way i can say "hold on i was wrong" and change it or do you just have to live with it.

You gotta live with it, otherwise on EVERY CLOSE PLAY after that, someone will chirp: "You sure you don't want to change that call, blue?" I had a similar one: R1 on, no out, 1 man system. Batter hits a sharp one-hopper to F6's right. I'm moving up the 3B line for a good angle at 2B. He gloves it, spins and fires to F4 covering. F4's foot is CLEARLY on the base, he catches the ball a full TWO STEPS before R1 gets there. My mind said "Out," but by the time it got to my hands, I come up with "Safe." IMMEDIATELY, I knew I missed it. I had to eat the call.

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so i had a game the other night and im working a one man crew. the pitcher does a pick off to second and from behind the plate i dont have the best view. well he gets the tag down and i call the runner out because it was a bang bang play. i didnt take that split second to think... and after a call him out i realize i made the incorrect call (so does everyone around me). if there is no other umpire to appeal with then is there a way i can say "hold on i was wrong" and change it or do you just have to live with it.

You gotta live with it, otherwise on EVERY CLOSE PLAY after that, someone will chirp: "You sure you don't want to change that call, blue?" I had a similar one: R1 on, no out, 1 man system. Batter hits a sharp one-hopper to F6's right. I'm moving up the 3B line for a good angle at 2B. He gloves it, spins and fires to F4 covering. F4's foot is CLEARLY on the base, he catches the ball a full TWO STEPS before R1 gets there. My mind said "Out," but by the time it got to my hands, I come up with "Safe." IMMEDIATELY, I knew I misse

d it. I had to eat the call.

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Call behind the mound if you are by yourself.
The pros do this. They did it yesterday.

It is not perfect AND you will miss things BUT I have found it the best compromise.

Try it some time.
 

And now it time for all of the naysayers to wade in.

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I jpoin the consensus .... stick with the call. I had a similar situation Sunday. Coach complained, "What do we have to do to get an 'out' call at seoncd?" My response: Coach, that's enought. I'm by myself and I'm doing the best I can. From here, he looked safe." By the way, the defender tagged runner on his ass after he was passed him, which means I had the runner's foot on the bag prior to the tag. Unless it's a swipe tag, dropped ball, pulled foot, check swing or rule interpretation, don't EVER ask for help, and if you're by yourself, live with the call.

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Call behind the mound if you are by yourself.

The pros do this. They did it yesterday.

It is not perfect AND you will miss things BUT I have found it the best compromise.

Try it some time.

 

And now it time for all of the naysayers to wade in.

 

One time an example does not make. This would have never happened in the regular season. It's also possible Tim got a not-so-friendly phone call from the MLB Office after the game.

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Call behind the mound if you are by yourself.

The pros do this. They did it yesterday.

It is not perfect AND you will miss things BUT I have found it the best compromise.

Try it some time.

 

And now it time for all of the naysayers to wade in.

The rest of the naysayers jumped in 2 months ago but thanks for finally coming to the party.

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I would like to have listened in on the phone call from the league office and McClelland.

 

Tim is rated as one of the best umpires in baseball today.

 

Quote from Tim:

 

 â€œYou get a great view from back there. You really do. It’s almost better than behind the plate.â€

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I ALMOST....

hit a homer = single

beat the tag = out

won the lottery = still broke, now crying

got there on time = late

bought the unequal @ $159 = no unequal for me

passed the test = failed

See a trend?

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noumpere

What were the post on calling behind the mound 2 months ago?



Call behind the mound if you are by yourself.
The pros do this. They did it yesterday.

It is not perfect AND you will miss things BUT I have found it the best compromise.

Try it some time.
 

And now it time for all of the naysayers to wade in.

The rest of the naysayers jumped in 2 months ago but thanks for finally coming to the party.

noumpere


 

What were the post on calling behind the mound 2 months ago?

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noumpere

What were the post on calling behind the mound 2 months ago?

 

Call behind the mound if you are by yourself.

The pros do this. They did it yesterday.

It is not perfect AND you will miss things BUT I have found it the best compromise.

Try it some time.

 

And now it time for all of the naysayers to wade in.

The rest of the naysayers jumped in 2 months ago but thanks for finally coming to the party.

noumpere

 

What were the post on calling behind the mound 2 months ago?

 

Let's put it this way:  there was one person who agreed with you.

 

One.

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Call behind the mound if you are by yourself.The pros do this. They did it yesterday.

It is not perfect AND you will miss things BUT I have found it the best compromise.

Try it some time.

And now it time for all of the naysayers to wade in.

Not this again!!! Yikes.
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Unfortunately we do quite a bit of one man out here..... Some Jr High, High School and 13u and below.....

For me, on a pickoff/steal working alone, it's got to be obvious!!

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Unfortunately we do quite a bit of one man out here..... Some Jr High, High School and 13u and below.....

For me, on a pickoff/steal working alone, it's got to be obvious!!

 

Agreed. I did, however, call R2 out on a pick off last week during a one man game. He did a perfect imitation of Paul Blart - full extention and a foot short. :)

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I jpoin the consensus .... stick with the call. I had a similar situation Sunday. Coach complained, "What do we have to do to get an 'out' call at seoncd?" My response: Coach, that's enought. I'm by myself and I'm doing the best I can. From here, he looked safe." By the way, the defender tagged runner on his ass after he was passed him, which means I had the runner's foot on the bag prior to the tag. Unless it's a swipe tag, dropped ball, pulled foot, check swing or rule interpretation, don't EVER ask for help, and if you're by yourself, live with the call.

Simply tell him to pay the second umpire. Anything else gets him dumped. Do not make excuses, if he is stupid enough to argue with a man by himself then he needs to not be there. He probably voted not to pay for a second, so piss on him. 

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I've been asked exactly 1 time "What do we have to do to get a call?"

My response was "Make a play."

It was snide and sarcastic, but I'd had a gulletful of this guy. Guess he got the point, because he didn't say anything else.

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I've been asked exactly 1 time "What do we have to do to get a call?"

My response was "Make a play."

It was snide and sarcastic, but I'd had a gulletful of this guy. Guess he got the point, because he didn't say anything else.

Some days the self censoring button just doesn't work. I had a coach ask how far a batter had to swing before I would rule it a swing. I had safed two check swings in the first, after the second he asked the question. I told him obviously further than he has. 

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