Rumor I heard

[JaxRolo]

Someone said that FHSAA may not subscribe to NFHS at some point soon.

 

Not sure what that means.  Does it mean going to OBR?

[Umpire in Chief]

Massachusetts ditched FED. I think there is another state which uses OBR too. That would be a good thing IMO.

[T-Rav]

Someone said that FHSAA may not subscribe to NFHS at some point soon.

 

Not sure what that means.  Does it mean going to OBR?

 

 

 

Hmmmmm, this would be interesting, especially considering all the sports that would need to be changed to different rule-sets. 

[semper_fi_72]

Someone said that FHSAA may not subscribe to NFHS at some point soon.

 

Not sure what that means.  Does it mean going to OBR?

 

Rumor

1. A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth.

2. Unverified information received from another; hearsay.

tr.v. ru·mored, ru·mor·ing, ru·mors

To spread or tell by rumor.

 

Learned a long time ago to never pay attention to rumors.

They do nothing but cause confusion and problems.

[JaxRolo]

Heard they are getting FED-up with some of the NFHS stuff

[spiritump]

keep the FED rules--that is ok--but the FED mechanics SUCK

[BRUMP]

Heard they are getting FED-up with some of the NFHS stuff

Ha

[BT_Blue]

Both Oregon and Washington have moved away from FED but still use FED rules.

[semper_fi_72]

Both Oregon and Washington have moved away from FED but still use FED rules.

 

:question1: :question1: :question1: :question1:

How do you move away from FED but still use FED Rules???????

Houston we have a problem here

[BT_Blue]

Neither state uses fed mechanics. Oregon has used a cross between CCA and FED mechanics they call Oregon Modified for about the last five years. Washington will be doing the same thing this coming season and I, for one, couldn't be happier.

[scrounge]

Ohio does the same in football, uses full NFHS rules but uses an entirely custom and very detailed mechanics book. No need to even open the NFHS mechanics book, it's been superseded.

[mstaylor]

I think Texas uses NCAA rules for football, but I don't know for sure.

[noumpere]

Someone said that FHSAA may not subscribe to NFHS at some point soon.

 

Not sure what that means.  Does it mean going to OBR?

It just means every umpire and other official is not autimatically enriolled in the NFHS site.  You will get yoru insurance from someone else and have to pay to use the arbiter stuff.  You will still use the NFHS rules etc.

 

Its a $$$$ thing for the state association.  I think only about half the states are what FED calls "100% particiapation states" or something like that.

[slo8140]

Texas does use NCAA rules in football and we have our mechanics manual that TASO (Texas Association of Sports Officals) puts out each year.

For baseball we use NFHS rules and a mechanics book that is TASO specific. I am not familiar with FED mechanics, but I wish texas would just use the CCA. If you are working with a guy that calls college stuff we usually use CCA for High School games. The TASO book has some quirky things in it. If you lose your book it is also hard to get a replacement. Instead of making it a PDF like all other sports do, they made it a paperback book. I think they originally had intentions of selling them, but that never came to pass. Needless to say it is not very popular especially when you get to three and four man mechanics. With it being in book form they also really cannot update it yearly. You get a copy your first year and then ?????

[guitarplaya2007]

I wish all states would use OBR for high school. I know missouri really needs to do something, maybe use modified obr with "safety" rules put in place to avain crashes at the plate and crashing the pivot man but the immediate dead ball on balks and dead ball appeals really need to go the way of the do-do....

[Jimurray]

I wish all states would use OBR for high school. I know missouri really needs to do something, maybe use modified obr with "safety" rules put in place to avain crashes at the plate and crashing the pivot man but the immediate dead ball on balks and dead ball appeals really need to go the way of the do-do....

Be carefull what you wish for. There is a reason FED simplified the balk rule to immediate dead ball. The LL and Pony and FED umpires in my neck of the woods do not know how to rule on what can happen if you allow the ball to remain live after a balk call. The closest I can remember is a PONY ump group telling their umpires that the coach gets the penalty or the play. When that error was brought to their attention they said that the actual balk rule was too complicated and this was done to simplify it.

[BT_Blue]

Did you ask how in the world that actually simplified things? There were rules in the FED book much worse then these (the automatic out for leaving early, not being able to turn your shoulders while taking signs, etc). Some rules still need to be changed (the balk rule) and some do not (FPSR).

[BRUMP]

Maybe I'm in the minority (I guess I am) but I don't mind killing a balk immediately. I'd rather the OBR rule but I can live with an immediate dead ball.

[Jocko]

I personally like the dead ball balk. When called properly, you usually don't even get a pitch. It makes things easier, IMO.

[BRUMP]

The dead ball appeal has to go though.

[johnnyg08]

Many FED rules are in place because of poor umpires not knowing the rules.

[JaxRolo]

Many FED rules are in place because of poor umpires not knowing the rules.

 

I agree. Over the last couple of months we have been training for the new season. (I have a Varsity game tomorrow! )

 

We have a few new guys that really should not be on the field yet.They just need more training!  I commend them for being out there and trying but they just don't get it. But we have to fill holes. The season starts tomorrow so we are out of time for more group training. A couple of us have asked this new guys to come out this coming weekend for extra training. We will see how dedicated they are.

[Nazrat]

Texas does use NCAA rules in football and we have our mechanics manual that TASO (Texas Association of Sports Officals) puts out each year.

For baseball we use NFHS rules and a mechanics book that is TASO specific. I am not familiar with FED mechanics, but I wish texas would just use the CCA. If you are working with a guy that calls college stuff we usually use CCA for High School games. The TASO book has some quirky things in it. If you lose your book it is also hard to get a replacement. Instead of making it a PDF like all other sports do, they made it a paperback book. I think they originally had intentions of selling them, but that never came to pass. Needless to say it is not very popular especially when you get to three and four man mechanics. With it being in book form they also really cannot update it yearly. You get a copy your first year and then ?????

They do sell them.  http://www.amazon.com/Baseball-Umpires-Manual-Mechanics/dp/0982243707/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1360068687&sr=8-2&keywords=taso+baseball

 

The manual isn't terrible.  It is solid for basic instruction for new umpires.  Some advanced mechanics are missing IMO.