Mussgrass

Doesn't 12U suck! I am so jumpy with a pitcher throwing hard with no control and a catcher that can't. And here comes one up and in!

Also take the situation of R1 (or more runners) and less than 2 outs. A ground ball to F3 and he fields it and steps on 1st and then throws to 2nd. Players are coached to yell "tag" to remind F4 or F6 taking the throw that they need to tag R1 to get the out since the force was removed.

How many games did you work to wear them out that quickly?

What signals do you use with your partner(s) during relaxed action? I am talking about recognizing 1st to third situations, number of outs, I have info for you, etc.

What is the proper mechanic / signal / call if the defense is making a live ball appeal on a runner leaving early if the fielder receiving the throw and tagging the base pulls his foot before he catches the throw? It is of course, not an out. Safe, on the actual appeal, is not quite correct either. Is no call correct? Any signal to show the fielder off the base, kind of like a usual ground ball play on a BR at 1st base? This was at 1st, not that it really matters. Finally, does this void any further appeal attempts? I was asked this at church today regarding a recent slow pitch softball game. I imagine baseball rules would be similar. The Fed verbal appeal would negate needing to do the live ball appeal.

They should have thrown to 2nd to get the force out on R1 on the first play.

I had this very thing happen when I was coaching 14U Fed rules a few years ago when my son played. One of our players forgot to report when he went up to bat as a sub and ended up walking. The opposing team appealed as a BOO. The umpires enforced it as such. They would believe me that it was simply an unreported sub. The kid was even listed as a sub on the lineup I had given the coach. At this level the plate umpire did not keep a copy. My son told me to get myself thrown out. I did not. Later that evening I called the league scheduler, who was also the umpire assignor, about a rainout make up. I mentioned this occurrence to him. He said he would call the umps because they should know better. This is never an out at any level of ball.

If that rule is in place then what happens if a fair ball or a thrown ball gets deflected into foul territory and a fielder chases after it? Legal collisions are going to happen even with rules to prevent collisions.

So, how long is the statute of limitations on an old thread, versus stating a new one?

Does anyone else feel kind of smug when you watch this kind of thing and know the rules, while the announcers, players and coaches all have no clue?

The term for this is a time play. If the runner from 3rd scored before the out on the appeal on R2 was made, then the run counts. The play on R@ is appealing that he left early. It is not a force out.

Are there any umpires on here with mobility issues or physical disabilities? If so, how do you compensate on the field? For the record, in March of last year I suffered a herniated disc in L1 L2 that completely compressed the nerve roots that feed my right leg. I had surgery 1 week after the sneeze that caused it. I had lost a lot of the feeling and function in that leg. The main effects are weakness in my quad and some drop foot and ankle weakness. I cannot run and need to watch my step on rough ground. Some strength nd function are coming back but I don't know if the nerves will fully regrow. I can umpire but I can't cover ground as quickly as I would like to be able to.

Every team needs a spitting coach!

Really?! Just suck it up and learn to work with what you got! He can't be that bad!

You better not wear long sleeves under your short sleeved shirt. That is unforgiveable! LOL

And even more people believe that you need contact in order for it to be INT or OBS.

You are right about what you should have done. Don't sweat it, we don't see BOO that often.

If it is the defensive teams on deck circle wouldn't they just disadvantage themselves. Can't penalize the offense for something the defense did.

Can the defense initiate what looks like a live ball appeal when the ball is dead? Must a dead ball appeal be a verbal appeal? Would tagging the plate or the runner be a legal appeal when the ball is dead? My thinking would answer my questions no, yes, no. I may be wrong.

If it is a strike I will call it a strike. I don't care what happens after the ball passes through the strike zone.

Boy you guys really complain about old threads!

Someone please remind me, in this situation when does the runner need to be tagged and when can the base be tagged?

And also be prepared to then announce that the run doesn't score if the defense executes a proper appeal on R3 leaving early.

And R3 is gonna get a good *** chewing for not tagging up in the first place!

Thanks! I missed the touched in fair.