Flyball

[Guest Pete_Goffrin]

A) If an fielder attempts to catch a fly ball and the ball deflects off of his glove over to second fielder and the ball deflects off again of head or arm of the second fielder and then is caught by a third fielder, is a legal catch?

B) The batter hits a deep fly ball and, instead of catching the ball cleanly can the fielder purposely juggle/bobble the ball while moving back towards the infield? Can two or more fielders volleyball a flyball? 

C) If a fielder attemtps to cacth a fly ball, that is over foul territory, and the ball deflects off of his hand over to a second fielder and then deflects off to a third fielder who touches the ball and then drop it on the ground, what's the call? Foul ball?

D) A fair or foul fly ball are treated the same. But if a fielder touches a foul ball and deflects off to an other fielder, could they volleyball the ball and then drop it so it is a foul ball and the runner had run in vain?

[BLWizzRanger]

With that much juggling, usually, there are elephants, tigers, and clowns involved. Are you sure you aren't at the circus? 

[Lou B]

If a fly ball is touched/deflected/juggled by one or two or three fielders and is subsequently caught it is an out, if if drops to the ground it's not.  If the ball was first touched in fair territory it is fair and if first touched in foul territory it is foul.

As for base runners, they may tag up and begin their advance as soon as the ball is first touched, so, for example, one out and an R3 and a deep fly to center, as soon as the F8 touches the ball R3 can tag and take off for home, so F8 juggling the ball as he moves towards the infield until he catches the ball will not prevent R3 from scoring.

[wolfe_man]

59 minutes ago, Guest Pete_Goffrin said:

A) If an fielder attempts to catch a fly ball and the ball deflects off of his glove over to second fielder and the ball deflects off again of head or arm of the second fielder and then is caught by a third fielder, is a legal catch? As long as it doesn't touch the ground, it's an out if caught before touching the ground.

B) The batter hits a deep fly ball and, instead of catching the ball cleanly can the fielder purposely juggle/bobble the ball while moving back towards the infield? Can two or more fielders volleyball a flyball?  While I suppose you could "juggle" a catch, I'm not sure why you would do so intentionally.  If you drop it, it's a hit - and it's an out regardless of where you catch it on the playing field.

C) If a fielder attemtps to cacth a fly ball, that is over foul territory, and the ball deflects off of his hand over to a second fielder and then deflects off to a third fielder who touches the ball and then drop it on the ground, what's the call? Foul ball?  An uncaught fly ball touched in foul territory is a foul ball.  If the whole team touches it, if one person touches it - or if no one touches it - it's a foul ball based on where it landed or is touched.  The only thing that can make it a fair (foul) ball is to land in fair (foul) territory without being touched by a fielder. The umpire shall judge if a ball is fair or fall based on it's location, nothing else matters.  

D) A fair or foul fly ball are treated the same. But if a fielder touches a foul ball and deflects off to an other fielder, could they volleyball the ball and then drop it so it is a foul ball and the runner had run in vain? If a fielder touches a fair fly ball, then it is a fair ball.  He can choose to juggle it, pass it, kick it or anything else he likes - but it is a fair ball and as soon as he makes contact with the ball, the runner(s) may advance without having to return to their base when he finishes his juggling routine and secures the catch.  There are rules in place to prevent a fielder from juggling a ball from the outfield into the infield before making the "catch" so they prevent runners from tagging up.  I'd suggest researching "what is a catch" in the rule book as a starter.

[noumpere]

1 and 2) You apparently know a second fielder can "catch" a deflected ball -- so what difference would it make whether it's a third or fourth or .. or how many times it's juggled?  Know that a runner can "tag up" as soon as the ball is touched -- he need not do so after it's eventually caught.

3 and 4) When does a ball become fair (or foul)?  Hint: it's not when it's dropped.  And, if a fielder wanted a ball to be foul, why wouldn't he just let it fall to the ground in the first place?

[wolfe_man]

1 hour ago, BLWizzRanger said:

With that much juggling, usually, there are elephants, tigers, and clowns involved. Are you sure you aren't at the circus? 

It might be LL or 9th grade baseball.  It seems like a circus sometimes.  And we all know there are clowns found at all levels of the game.  🤡

[maven]

[SeeingEyeDog]

8 minutes ago, maven said:

I mean...damn...who needs coffee after seeing this image?

~Dawg

[beerguy55]

2 hours ago, Guest Pete_Goffrin said:

A) If an fielder attempts to catch a fly ball and the ball deflects off of his glove over to second fielder and the ball deflects off again of head or arm of the second fielder and then is caught by a third fielder, is a legal catch?

Why wouldn't it be?

2 hours ago, Guest Pete_Goffrin said:

B) The batter hits a deep fly ball and, instead of catching the ball cleanly can the fielder purposely juggle/bobble the ball while moving back towards the infield? Can two or more fielders volleyball a flyball?

He can, but runners who tag up can leave after first touched.  Someone used this loophole about a 150 years ago and they fixed the rule to prevent this.  You don't really think you're the first person to think of this, do you?

 

2 hours ago, Guest Pete_Goffrin said:

C) If a fielder attemtps to cacth a fly ball, that is over foul territory, and the ball deflects off of his hand over to a second fielder and then deflects off to a third fielder who touches the ball and then drop it on the ground, what's the call? Foul ball?

Where was it first touched?

 

2 hours ago, Guest Pete_Goffrin said:

D) A fair or foul fly ball are treated the same

They are?  Well, SH*#, I've been playing the game wrong for over 40 years.  Ignore everything else I've said, I obviously don't know anything.

[Guest Pete_Goffrin]

2 hours ago, Lou B said:

If a fly ball is touched/deflected/juggled by one or two or three fielders and is subsequently caught it is an out, if if drops to the ground it's not.  If the ball was first touched in fair territory it is fair and if first touched in foul territory it is foul.

As for base runners, they may tag up and begin their advance as soon as the ball is first touched, so, for example, one out and an R3 and a deep fly to center, as soon as the F8 touches the ball R3 can tag and take off for home, so F8 juggling the ball as he moves towards the infield until he catches the ball will not prevent R3 from scoring.

Ok, thanks.

1 hour ago, beerguy55 said:

 

Where was it first touched?

Over foul territory.

Could two or more fielders volleyball with a ball first touches over foul territory so when the runners reach home they can drop the ball and so the runners had run in vain, no?

[aaluck]

34 minutes ago, Guest Pete_Goffrin said:

Could two or more fielders volleyball with a ball first touches over foul territory so when the runners reach home they can drop the ball and so the runners had run in vain, no?

Are you the scout for the Savannah Bananas?

[wolfe_man]

53 minutes ago, Guest Pete_Goffrin said:

Over foul territory

Could two or more fielders volleyball with a ball first touches over foul territory so when the runners reach home they can drop the ball and so the runners had run in vain, no?

If the ball is foul - then the ball must be either caught (runners can then tag up and advance at their own risk) or not caught (doesn't matter if they ran or not because it's foul anyhow).   I don't see a runner running in vain here regardless of if fair or foul. 

IF they can tag up and advance, then they moved up - IF they cannot, then they're not running anyhow but waiting to see if the ball is fair/foul in the situation described (most likely a foul pop up/fly ball).  On a line drive, the runners probably are running - but if it is foul and uncaught, then they'd have to return to the base occupied at time of pitch anyhow - so it didn't change anything. 

With respect, I think you're trying to imagine a scenario that the rule book stopped from being able to happen years ago.

[beerguy55]

1 hour ago, Guest Pete_Goffrin said:

Could two or more fielders volleyball with a ball first touches over foul territory so when the runners reach home they can drop the ball and so the runners had run in vain, no?

They could.  They would be idiots, but they could.  Why give up an out in exchange for making a runner run for no reason?  (for the batter, it's either foul or out, so no reason for him to run - but yes, other runners could retouch and advance, and if the ball drops it would be foul and the running all for nothing...but again, why?  Take the out)