Excessive reaction—ejections

[spark2212]

I’m just curious, can an umpire change his mind once he’s ejected someone (i.e. uneject them)?

[The Man in Blue]

Curious to see where this is going ...

 

(No)

[noumpere]

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(Maybe)

[Aging_Arbiter]

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(Why)

[beerguy55]

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(Why not)

 

 

[BLarson]

I was coaching a 11U USSSA game and the umpire restricted the opposing HC to the dugout in the first inning for arguing some call, but then let him back on the field in the 4th inning.

We knew the opposing coach pretty well and was joking he was let out of jail.   The umpire then yelled us:  "Don't talk to him"

Missed the opportunity after the game to ask the coach why he was let back on the field.

[beerguy55]

I'm speculating that an umpire heard a coach/player say something, ejected him (perhaps itchy trigger finger), and then realized, or was told by his partner, that what he heard wasn't what was said (or it was said by a fan, not a player).

It's the balance between looking bad, saving face, admitting error, and correcting a wrong - I can't imagine why an umpire couldn't un-eject someone if extenuating circumstances determined the ejection was unwarranted or unfounded.   "My mistake, I thought you said something else"...now, coach/player must tread carefully here...umpire just put himself out there by publicly correcting a public mistake...any snark, sarcasm, comeback, snide remark...anything but "thank you" or "no worries" or "could happen to anyone" could reinstate that ejection.

I suspect he could also change his ejection if it was realized the wrong player was punished.

 

It might be a little more difficult - and probably be inadvisable - to change your mind if you made quick ejection and then realized a couple of seconds later that you simply overreacted, and that a warning (or ignore) was more appropriate...I think there you could probably still undo it, but it would probably do more harm than just leaving the ejection in place.   After all, the player/coach did SOMETHING inappropriate.

Big difference between wrongly ejecting someone who was innocent and 'wrongly' ejecting someone who is guilty of a lesser offense.   

Unless you're the type who will justify it by concluding he's just being punished for the times he didn't get caught.

[Jimurray]

48 minutes ago, beerguy55 said:

I'm speculating that an umpire heard a coach/player say something, ejected him (perhaps itchy trigger finger), and then realized, or was told by his partner, that what he heard wasn't what was said (or it was said by a fan, not a player).

It's the balance between looking bad, saving face, admitting error, and correcting a wrong - I can't imagine why an umpire couldn't un-eject someone if extenuating circumstances determined the ejection was unwarranted or unfounded.   "My mistake, I thought you said something else"...now, coach/player must tread carefully here...umpire just put himself out there by publicly correcting a public mistake...any snark, sarcasm, comeback, snide remark...anything but "thank you" or "no worries" or "could happen to anyone" could reinstate that ejection.

I suspect he could also change his ejection if it was realized the wrong player was punished.

 

It might be a little more difficult - and probably be inadvisable - to change your mind if you made quick ejection and then realized a couple of seconds later that you simply overreacted, and that a warning (or ignore) was more appropriate...I think there you could probably still undo it, but it would probably do more harm than just leaving the ejection in place.   After all, the player/coach did SOMETHING inappropriate.

Big difference between wrongly ejecting someone who was innocent and 'wrongly' ejecting someone who is guilty of a lesser offense.   

Unless you're the type who will justify it by concluding he's just being punished for the times he didn't get caught.

Can't remember the verbiage but I'm BU and hear 1BC yell at his batter, probably a take on a pitch that he he should have put in play. My PU hears part of what the coach said and ejected him. I think what my partner heard was immediately electable but he didn't realize that that he missed some of the context and it was directed at his batter. We got together and un-ejected. Yes, coaches can sneak some of those comments in but this wasn't one of them. 

[Senor Azul]

I was searching the Internet looking for an instance where an MLB umpire reversed an ejection. The only thing I have found so far is the following possibility--

I've heard of it happening exactly once. Unfortunately, I can't remember the team (the Astros maybe? Rockies? Padres?) or when it happened, so searching for it is problematic. I hope it's not just a legend. Anyway, as I remember it, the team was struggling, and so as a show of unity they all decided to use the same bat. Well, the first batter of the game for their team struck out looking. Instead of taking his bat back to the dugout, he laid it down in the batter's box for the next guy. The umpire took this as some kind of protest or demonstration, and promptly ejected him (making a big show out of arguing balls and strikes will get you tossed in a hurry). The team quickly explained what they were doing and how they weren't trying to show him up, and the ejection was rescinded. I'm sure everyone involved all had a good chuckle.

Someone else in that same thread seemed to think it was Orlando Palmeiro who was the player who was ejected by mistake when he played for the Angels (from 1995-2002). Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? Or is this just another urban legend?