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Thanks Rolo. At first glance I don't know what rule this POE references:

"PITCHING SUBSTITUTION AND CHANGE

Pitching is critical in our game and substituting for the pitcher is a key personnel strategy. By rule, there are some specific time guidelines provided for the execution of substituting the game pitcher. It is becoming more noticeable that the defensive coach is extending his time around the mound while the substitute pitcher completes his warm-up pitches. This delay of the game by lingering around the mound has become problematic. While it provides the coach an opportunity to speak to the rest of the defensive team, but it is also lengthening and delaying the game. The coach should make his substitution known to the umpire-in-chief, scorekeeper, relieve the game pitcher, instruct his players quickly, and leave the diamond area heading back to the dugout/bench area. For the sake of continuity, it is a better game when it is fluid and with minimal interruptions."

And who wrote this sentence? "While it provides the coach an opportunity to speak to the rest of the defensive team, but it is also lengthening and delaying the game."

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Thanks Rolo. At first glance I don't know what rule this POE references:

"PITCHING SUBSTITUTION AND CHANGE

Pitching is critical in our game and substituting for the pitcher is a key personnel strategy. By rule, there are some specific time guidelines provided for the execution of substituting the game pitcher. It is becoming more noticeable that the defensive coach is extending his time around the mound while the substitute pitcher completes his warm-up pitches. This delay of the game by lingering around the mound has become problematic. While it provides the coach an opportunity to speak to the rest of the defensive team, but it is also lengthening and delaying the game. The coach should make his substitution known to the umpire-in-chief, scorekeeper, relieve the game pitcher, instruct his players quickly, and leave the diamond area heading back to the dugout/bench area. For the sake of continuity, it is a better game when it is fluid and with minimal interruptions."

And who wrote this sentence? "While it provides the coach an opportunity to speak to the rest of the defensive team, but it is also lengthening and delaying the game."

 

 

FED always manages to come up with some screwy interps and POE's.

 

If the coach is standing there while the new pitcher warms up, how is that delaying the game? If he walks back toward the dugout as soon as the pitcher finishes, he should be hitting the dugout about the time the next batter is hitting the batter's box. This should take all of about ten seconds.

 

If the coach is lingering around and delaying the game after the pitcher's warmed up, then the umpire needs to be telling him to clear out, or else charging him with another conference.

 

This should be pretty much a non-issue. Why waste the time making it a POE?

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Seems to me there's got to be something anything a little more important FED could be making a POE. 

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I am trying to think if changing to the OBR definition of a trip (over when you leave the 18' dirt circle around the mound) would help keep coaches from hanging around.

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Notice it says, "The coach should...."  No mention of penalty.  Kind of like the listing all substitutes rule.  No penalty for not following the rule.

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Notice it says, "The coach should...."  No mention of penalty.  Kind of like the listing all substitutes rule.  No penalty for not following the rule.

What rule is the POE referencing? The POE appears to have be written by the same person that wrote the instructions to my made in not in the USA thing.

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I'm studying for the FED test, which is February. Our state association didn't issue me a case book, only a rule book. Should I be studying the case book for the test?

Absolutely!!!

They need to issue you a case book as well as the umpires manual

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Rule book only. I called, they said I could buy one, but they don't have any! Haaa! I'll buy the kindle version. I'm also studying the PBUC Manual for the 2 umpire system, red book, but they didn't provide that either! It's no wonder there's trouble finding quality officials...the people hiring them don't train them! It seems the standard of training is determined by the trainee? 

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Rule book only. I called, they said I could buy one, but they don't have any! Haaa! I'll buy the kindle version. I'm also studying the PBUC Manual for the 2 umpire system, red book, but they didn't provide that either! It's no wonder there's trouble finding quality officials...the people hiring them don't train them! It seems the standard of training is determined by the trainee? 

 

Fed (NFHS) doe have their own umpire manual which discusses mechanics.

 

http://www.nfhs.com/p-758-2013-2014-baseball-umpires-manual.aspx

 

Note that many here do NOT hold this publication in high regard.  Stick withthe PBUC and if possible the Jim Evans Maximizing Manual.

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Rule book only. I called, they said I could buy one, but they don't have any! Haaa! I'll buy the kindle version. I'm also studying the PBUC Manual for the 2 umpire system, red book, but they didn't provide that either! It's no wonder there's trouble finding quality officials...the people hiring them don't train them! It seems the standard of training is determined by the trainee? 

 

Can you access the online casebook through Arbiter?

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Rule book only. I called, they said I could buy one, but they don't have any! Haaa! I'll buy the kindle version. I'm also studying the PBUC Manual for the 2 umpire system, red book, but they didn't provide that either! It's no wonder there's trouble finding quality officials...the people hiring them don't train them! It seems the standard of training is determined by the trainee? 

 

Can you access the online casebook through Arbiter?

 

Yes you can

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How do I do that? 

Does your association use arbiter?

Try this link:

 

 

Thanks Jax. The link identifies me by my name through my arbiter account, but it still says content only NFHS members? I left a voicemail at NFHS for help. 

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How do I do that? 

Does your association use arbiter?

Try this link:

 

 

Thanks Jax. The link identifies me by my name through my arbiter account, but it still says content only NFHS members? I left a voicemail at NFHS for help. 

 

I think you just go to the NFHS and create an account.

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Rule book only. I called, they said I could buy one, but they don't have any! Haaa! I'll buy the kindle version. I'm also studying the PBUC Manual for the 2 umpire system, red book, but they didn't provide that either! It's no wonder there's trouble finding quality officials...the people hiring them don't train them! It seems the standard of training is determined by the trainee? 

 

Fed (NFHS) doe have their own umpire manual which discusses mechanics.

 

http://www.nfhs.com/p-758-2013-2014-baseball-umpires-manual.aspx

 

Note that many here do NOT hold this publication in high regard.  Stick withthe PBUC and if possible the Jim Evans Maximizing Manual.

 

 

And while this may be the prevailing approach to many who frequent this site, many of those are also experienced officials who work multiple levels of baseball with varying skill levels.

 

I might suggest that you also find out what the prevailing mechanics are in your local association so that you can successfully assimilate. It is probably not in your best interest to be the new guy, the inexperienced guy, and the guy who insists on doing things differently.

 

While I do not necessarily agree with all the mechanics in the NFHS manual, I know that if I choose to be the maverick (not @Maverick) while working high school ball in New Jersey, I will likely receive negative marks from state observers. The NJSIAA sends the observers throughout the state to "check" on the mechanics, uniforms, and performances of umpires throughout the season.

 

The last several years they have specifically reinforced the necessity of using federation mechanics rather than any other mechanics and I know three umpires who have received messages from their assigners about not using approved mechanics in high school ball. Want to guess which umpires also did not receive any post season assignments, despite their considerable experience and talents?

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Rule book only. I called, they said I could buy one, but they don't have any! Haaa! I'll buy the kindle version. I'm also studying the PBUC Manual for the 2 umpire system, red book, but they didn't provide that either! It's no wonder there's trouble finding quality officials...the people hiring them don't train them! It seems the standard of training is determined by the trainee?

 

Fed (NFHS) doe have their own umpire manual which discusses mechanics.

 

http://www.nfhs.com/p-758-2013-2014-baseball-umpires-manual.aspx

 

Note that many here do NOT hold this publication in high regard.  Stick withthe PBUC and if possible the Jim Evans Maximizing Manual.

 

And while this may be the prevailing approach to many who frequent this site, many of those are also experienced officials who work multiple levels of baseball with varying skill levels.

 

I might suggest that you also find out what the prevailing mechanics are in your local association so that you can successfully assimilate. It is probably not in your best interest to be the new guy, the inexperienced guy, and the guy who insists on doing things differently.

 

While I do not necessarily agree with all the mechanics in the NFHS manual, I know that if I choose to be the maverick (not @Maverick) while working high school ball in New Jersey, I will likely receive negative marks from state observers. The NJSIAA sends the observers throughout the state to "check" on the mechanics, uniforms, and performances of umpires throughout the season.

 

The last several years they have specifically reinforced the necessity of using federation mechanics rather than any other mechanics and I know three umpires who have received messages from their assigners about not using approved mechanics in high school ball. Want to guess which umpires also did not receive any post season assignments, despite their considerable experience and talents?

Couldn't agree with you more! I'm the last guy to play the maverick. As soon as I get some direction from the local chapter, I'm all in, their way. Thanks for the tip.

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I'd like to see a POE about FPSR at bases other than second base. I've seen blatant violations at other bases that nobody thinks twice about.

Just some video examples of the violation would be nice too. Nobody calls it in my area and it causes problems in my area for people who actually have the ability to call FPSR in our FED games.

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