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I am 15 years old. I started umpiring late last year and I have umpired about 20 11U/12U games. Starting this coming weekend I have been moved up to 13U (a bigger field).

 

The local baseball umpire's association that I belong to is requiring that I take and pass the 2014 NFHS Baseball Umpire's Test.  I got a hold of 2013 rule/case books so starting yesterday I am trying to answer 25 questions each day after school. I find the test questions confusing. The same goes for the rule/case books. I have not been able to find the answers to the some of the questions so I am here asking for help.  You don't have to give me the answer (but that would be nice) I need help finding where the answers are in the rule/case books so that I can read it for myself.

 

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3) An eligible substitute whose name and number is not included on the lineup card that is submitted to the umpire-in-chief is prohibited from playing. 

                        True

                        False

 

I answered TRUE because the question said that he was "eligible". He would be added to the end of the line-up. Right?  I can't find the exact answer in the book.

 

8) R1 on first base gets a great jump on the pitcher's move and is sliding into second base when B2 swings and misses the pitch for strike three. B2's follow through strikes the catcher. 

                        Since B2 did not intentionally cause his bat to hit F2, there is no interference.

                        B2 is guilty of interference. R1 is declared out and B2 continues to bat.

                        Since F2 had no possible play on R1, B2 is declared out and R1 is returned to first base.

                        B2 is guilty of interference. Both B2 and R1 are declared out. 

 

I answered "D" but according to 7.3.5 Situation C the answer could be "C" also it's a judgement call.  I am confused!

 

23) During the second inning of the game, the lead-off batter enters the box with an illegal bat. There has been no previous issue with an illegal bat. 

                        There is no problem. The batter shall secure a legal bat.

                        The batter is declared out and his head coach is ejected.

                        The batter is declared out and his head coach is restricted to the bench.

                        The player and the coach are warned and a subsequent violation will result in an ejection of the coach and the player.

 

I said "B" but I couldn't find the answer in the book.  I figured that if this is the 2nd time a illegal bat is discovered the coach deserves to be kicked out.

 

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Gentleman, I am only reading the rule and trying to stop any confusion....apparently, I have touched a sore spot for some of you, if not all of you...If we are all consistent with the ruling then everyone involved will be straight and do the right thing.

 

Has anyone found the words vicinity or near the base in the rule yet for me ?

 

I guess the PU does not have to say "PLAY"  either to put the dead ball back in play?? (Just point )

 

Explain to me how the word return to the base in that rule does not equal retagging the bag?      :wow:

 

Now we can see why some Coaches get upset or angry... :hopmad:

Many things we do as umpires is not written in the rulebook but in the interp manuals. There are interps and something called common usage. I assure you if you ask this question at any pro clinic you will get the same answer. Returning does not necessarily translate to touch the base. Go to MLB.com and there is an Ask the Ump section. Ask Rick Roder if retouching is required.
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FELLOW UMPIRES:
   I  looked it up in MLB RULES.." 5.09 (e) states " A foul ball is not caught, in which case runners return to their bases, the Umpire in chief shall not put the ball in play until ALL players have retouched they bases.  http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2013/official_baseball_rules.pdf 

 

 It clearly states that the players have to "RETOUCH" their bases..DO THE RIGHT THING and enforce the rules...Geoff

 

YOU go research the  RULE and read the facts, then you decide to either enforce the rule or play ball by your RULE..

 

That is one of the reasons Coaches get upset...Some Umpires just don't want to change they ways even if they are wrong..

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Here's one for you Geoff:

 

The pitcher throws a fastball at the batter's head.  The batter spins out of the box trying to save his life.  You (PU) notice that the batter has one foot on the ground entirely out of the box when the ball hits his bat.  A strict follower of the rules would bang the batter out for illegal action.  That would upset a coach too.

 

Sometimes you just have to umpire.

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FELLOW UMPIRES:

   I  looked it up in MLB RULES.." 5.09 (e) states " A foul ball is not caught, in which case runners return to their bases, the Umpire in chief shall not put the ball in play until ALL players have retouched they bases.  http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2013/official_baseball_rules.pdf 

 

 It clearly states that the players have to "RETOUCH" their bases..DO THE RIGHT THING and enforce the rules...Geoff

 

YOU go research the  RULE and read the facts, then you decide to either enforce the rule or play ball by your RULE..

 

That is one of the reasons Coaches get upset...Some Umpires just don't want to change they ways even if they are wrong..

Sigh.

 

The rules don't always say what they mean or mean what they say.

 

OBR has 234 errors (or some such number) according to Jim Evans.

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FELLOW UMPIRES:

   I  looked it up in MLB RULES.." 5.09 (e) states " A foul ball is not caught, in which case runners return to their bases, the Umpire in chief shall not put the ball in play until ALL players have retouched they bases.  http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2013/official_baseball_rules.pdf 

 

 It clearly states that the players have to "RETOUCH" their bases..DO THE RIGHT THING and enforce the rules...Geoff

 

YOU go research the  RULE and read the facts, then you decide to either enforce the rule or play ball by your RULE..

 

That is one of the reasons Coaches get upset...Some Umpires just don't want to change they ways even if they are wrong..

Geoff,

 

You absolutely correct!  You can require each base runner to touch the base before putting the ball back in play. I think it’s a great idea too......... because I do not have to work with you  :smachhead:  I have never had a coach get upset with me because I didn't require the opposing team base runners to re-touch their base before putting the ball back in play.

 

Rather than worrying about enforcing this rule to the "letter of the law" you should concern yourself with other things, like learning the pitching rules, base running awards, when its a dead ball or delayed ball, and etc.

 

Don't try to "pick the fly s**t out of the pepper".

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FELLOW UMPIRES:

   I  looked it up in MLB RULES.." 5.09 (e) states " A foul ball is not caught, in which case runners return to their bases, the Umpire in chief shall not put the ball in play until ALL players have retouched they bases.  http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2013/official_baseball_rules.pdf 

 

 It clearly states that the players have to "RETOUCH" their bases..DO THE RIGHT THING and enforce the rules...Geoff

 

YOU go research the  RULE and read the facts, then you decide to either enforce the rule or play ball by your RULE..

 

That is one of the reasons Coaches get upset...Some Umpires just don't want to change they ways even if they are wrong..

 

 

Don't try to "pick the fly s**t out of the pepper".

 

HAHA. Never heard that before. Classic. 

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FELLOW UMPIRES:

   I  looked it up in MLB RULES.." 5.09 (e) states " A foul ball is not caught, in which case runners return to their bases, the Umpire in chief shall not put the ball in play until ALL players have retouched they bases.  http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2013/official_baseball_rules.pdf 

 

 It clearly states that the players have to "RETOUCH" their bases..DO THE RIGHT THING and enforce the rules...Geoff

 

YOU go research the  RULE and read the facts, then you decide to either enforce the rule or play ball by your RULE..

 

That is one of the reasons Coaches get upset...Some Umpires just don't want to change they ways even if they are wrong..

Once again..refer to my post 36 in this thread. Trust me. You don't want to be THAT guy. Go right ahead and enforce it every time. Lets see how smooth or rocky your game goes. And let's see how happy your partner is with you during your post game conference. 

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Hey fellow Umpires, guess what NFHS 2014 Pre-Season Guide for baseball, page 10, the article is called "THE ART OF RETOUCH"..PLEASE TAKE NOTE AND READ THE ARTICLE FOR YOURSELFS...ALSO NOTE THE KEY EXAMPLE AND RULING PLAY 1, RULING 1..SHORT AND SWEET THAT

"THE RUNNER MUST TOUCH THEIR ORGINAL BASE AFTER A FOUL BALL. Returning to the immediate vicinity IS NOT ACCEPTED! 

 

Go figure, again do the right thing and be that "OOO".....NOW I KNOW I WILL MOVE UP!

GEOFF! :notworthy: :notworthy:

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JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU BEEN DOING IT WRONG AND NOW YOU NEED TO MAKE THE RIGHT CALL.

 

HAVE THE RUNNERS RETOUCH THE BASE..

 

HERE IS A STATEMENT TO HELP YOU WHEN IT'S A FOUL BALL AND YOUR THE (BU)..JUST SAY " FOUL BALL- RUNNER(S) BACK" AND WATCH THE RUNNER(S)  RETOUCH THE BAG

 

THEN POINT TO YOUR PARTNER (PU) TO BUT THE BALL BACK INTO PLAY

 

PU WILL THEN DO SO BY STATING "PLAY" 

 

IT REALLY IS  SIMPLY MECHINACS.

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JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU BEEN DOING IT WRONG AND NOW YOU NEED TO MAKE THE RIGHT CALL.

 

HAVE THE RUNNERS RETOUCH THE BASE..

 

HERE IS A STATEMENT TO HELP YOU WHEN IT'S A FOUL BALL AND YOUR THE (BU)..JUST SAY " FOUL BALL- RUNNER(S) BACK" AND WATCH THE RUNNER(S)  RETOUCH THE BAG

 

THEN POINT TO YOUR PARTNER (PU) TO BUT THE BALL BACK INTO PLAY

 

PU WILL THEN DO SO BY STATING "PLAY" 

 

IT REALLY IS  SIMPLY MECHINACS.

I can't speak for the rest of the guys on U-E, but I really appreciate you taking the time to convince me that I have been negligent in enforcing this rule. I am always looking to improve. I just hope that all of the years that I have not been strictly enforcing this rule has not had a negative impact on the thousands of games that I have worked.

 

I would like some clarification if you don't mind. Let's say that bases are loaded when a ball is hit foul. Would I require all the base runners to be standing on their respective bases at the same time before putting the ball back in play or are they allowed to retouch the base then lead off before I put the ball back in play? 

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JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU BEEN DOING IT WRONG AND NOW YOU NEED TO MAKE THE RIGHT CALL.

 

HAVE THE RUNNERS RETOUCH THE BASE..

 

HERE IS A STATEMENT TO HELP YOU WHEN IT'S A FOUL BALL AND YOUR THE (BU)..JUST SAY " FOUL BALL- RUNNER(S) BACK" AND WATCH THE RUNNER(S)  RETOUCH THE BAG

 

THEN POINT TO YOUR PARTNER (PU) TO BUT THE BALL BACK INTO PLAY

 

PU WILL THEN DO SO BY STATING "PLAY" 

 

IT REALLY IS  SIMPLY MECHINACS.

Yeah, ...right ....

 

and oh .... do not post in ALL CAPS ...thank you

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JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU BEEN DOING IT WRONG AND NOW YOU NEED TO MAKE THE RIGHT CALL.

 

HAVE THE RUNNERS RETOUCH THE BASE..

 

HERE IS A STATEMENT TO HELP YOU WHEN IT'S A FOUL BALL AND YOUR THE (BU)..JUST SAY " FOUL BALL- RUNNER(S) BACK" AND WATCH THE RUNNER(S)  RETOUCH THE BAG

 

THEN POINT TO YOUR PARTNER (PU) TO BUT THE BALL BACK INTO PLAY

 

PU WILL THEN DO SO BY STATING "PLAY" 

 

IT REALLY IS  SIMPLY MECHINACS.

Yeah, ...right ....

 

and oh .... do not post in ALL CAPS ...thank you

 

 

As additional clarification (for GEOFF, not Thunderheads but I quoted Thunderheads post as it already bolded the text), I was trained to never say "Foul Ball", the proper verbal is simply "Foul".  Do you say "Dead ball" or "Time"?

 

Also, before you "point" to your partner to put the ball back in play (which you really do not need to do), you should be making sure that F1 has the ball and is engaged on the rubber.  Actually you should be watching the ball (umpiring 101) and glancing at the baserunners if you want to be sure they are doing what they should.  Just saying, it really is simply mechanics (lol)

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Thanks for the info. It's great to have rules knowledge in addition to good game management.

I appreciate having the information, but will not intently enforce this to the letter unless requested by a coach.

No unfair advantage gained by either team in a situation where I put the ball back in play with runners in vicinity of their base... see signature :)

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I think I'm shutting this one down.  There is nothing to be gained by any further discussion on this topic.

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I think I'm shutting this one down.  There is nothing to be gained by any further discussion on this topic.

 

I think I'm shutting this one down.  There is nothing to be gained by any further discussion on this topic.

Larry, I agree .......... if GEOFF comes back in and re-starts this, it should be locked up.  However, ...if the OP is answered, ...then why not just lock it down?

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I think I'm shutting this one down.  There is nothing to be gained by any further discussion on this topic.

Please do!!!!

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