Interference or Nothing

[Velho]

[noumpere]

INT

[JonnyCat]

Yes, I have INT on the batter.

[MadMax]

1 hour ago, JonnyCat said:

Yes, I have INT on the batter.

Right, but are we calling the Batter out (and R3 back to 3B)? Or R3 (and Batter continues)?

[eddieq]

15 minutes ago, MadMax said:

Right, but are we calling the Batter out (and R3 back to 3B)? Or R3 (and Batter continues)?

Ok, I'm a softball guy where we would call the batter out on INT and send the runner(s) back.  Is this called differently in the little ball/big field game?

[jimurrayalterego]

29 minutes ago, MadMax said:

Right, but are we calling the Batter out (and R3 back to 3B)? Or R3 (and Batter continues)?

Good question. We don't have BI, we have a member of the team at bat failing to vacate and hindering the pitcher. R3 out other runners return. 6.01(b)"...............................................If a member of the team at bat (other than a runner) hinders a fielder’s attempt to field a thrown ball, the ball is dead, the runner on whom the play is being made shall be declared out and all runners return to the last legally occupied base at the time of the interference."

 

[Velho]

13 minutes ago, jimurrayalterego said:

49 minutes ago, MadMax said:

Right, but are we calling the Batter out (and R3 back to 3B)? Or R3 (and Batter continues)?

Good question. We don't have BI, we have a member of the team at bat failing to vacate and hindering the pitcher. R3 out other runners return. 6.01(b)

What's the distinction you're using to invoke 6.01(b) vs 5.09(b)(8) / 6.01(a)(3)?

[Velho]

52 minutes ago, eddieq said:

Ok, I'm a softball guy where we would call the batter out on INT and send the runner(s) back.  Is this called differently in the little ball/big field game?

What ruleset?

NCAA has the same as all baseball rulesets: "11.20.2 Exceptions: (1) If a base runner is advancing to home plate and there are fewer than two outs, the base runner, instead of the batter, is out."

USA rulebook is difficult to navigate and I can't find anything one way or the other. I don't have NFHS.

 

[jimurrayalterego]

16 minutes ago, Velho said:

What's the distinction you're using to invoke 6.01(b) vs 5.09(b)(8) / 6.01(a)(3)?

I use "at home base" as the location where a batter would be guilty of BI. Others argue that any hindrance of "a play at home base" would be BI. 

[MadMax]

51 minutes ago, jimurrayalterego said:

we have a member of the team at bat failing to vacate and hindering the pitcher. R3 out other runners return.

Oo, I like this perspective. 

Isn't there a provision or component to INT regarding INT by a "member of the teat at bat", ie. base coaches? With R1, INT by the BC (either) results in Batter being called out, Runners return (paraphrased, IIRC). However, with R3, INT by the BC (3BC specifically?) results in R3 being called Out? Yes? Is that how I remember it? 

Then again, if I remember correctly, there's a provision for squeeze plays, with BI... that R3 is specifically called Out, and Batter continues, as punishment and prevention for attempting to score R3 again. Yes?

[Velho]

1 hour ago, MadMax said:

Then again, if I remember correctly, there's a provision for squeeze plays, with BI... that R3 is specifically called Out, and Batter continues, as punishment and prevention for attempting to score R3 again. Yes?

Yes. Believe it so much they list it twice:

5.09(b)(8) Any runner is out when he attempts to score on a play in which the batter interferes with the play at home base before two are out. With two out, the interference puts the batter out and no score counts;

6.01 (a)(3) Before two are out and a runner on third base, the batter hinders a fielder in making a play at home base; the runner is out;