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Bases loaded, 2 outs… 

Short pop fly down the first base line, catcher runs out, drops the pop fly in fair territory. The lazy runner stands at home… catcher picks up the ball and throws the batter out at first. 
 

Meanwhile, the runner on 3rd comes across home plate before the out. 
 

My mind says “force out no run”. Umpire says “run scores! It’s a timing play”

What say the crowd? 

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39 minutes ago, Mrtimturner said:

Bases loaded, 2 outs… 

Short pop fly down the first base line, catcher runs out, drops the pop fly in fair territory. The lazy runner stands at home… catcher picks up the ball and throws the batter out at first. 
 

Meanwhile, the runner on 3rd comes across home plate before the out. 
 

My mind says “force out no run”. Umpire says “run scores! It’s a timing play”

What say the crowd? 

You didn't have an umpire.

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42 minutes ago, Mrtimturner said:

Oh trust me! I did… I was so confused. 

I doubt that the league employing guys like that would have a protest procedure but it shouldn't come from the crowd. Perhaps we should assign some blame of lack of knowledge on the defense who could have calmly asked the ump to consider the rule, ask his partner, or entertain a protest.

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9 hours ago, The Man in Blue said:

And the crowd should have let him know that.

I don't think we really want to encourage that.

 

What age level was the play?  The umpires are learning, too.

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14 hours ago, jimurrayalterego said:

I doubt that the league employing guys like that would have a protest procedure but it shouldn't come from the crowd. Perhaps we should assign some blame of lack of knowledge on the defense who could have calmly asked the ump to consider the rule, ask his partner, or entertain a protest.

Let's be honest. The guy was working solo.

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1 hour ago, 834k3r said:

Let's be honest. The guy was working solo.

        They were soloing

And said "Run scores! Timing play"

   Oh my, that's wrong thrice!

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18 hours ago, jimurrayalterego said:

I doubt that the league employing guys like that would have a protest procedure but it shouldn't come from the crowd. Perhaps we should assign some blame of lack of knowledge on the defense who could have calmly asked the ump to consider the rule, ask his partner, or entertain a protest.

My first inclination was this was basically a parent volunteer, but to say "timing play" would be very odd for someone without at least SOME training.

I've had an "umpire" (an actual trainer for other umpires too) rule the opposite - b/r got thrown out at second and he uncounted R3's run because b/r made the third out.  🙄

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10 hours ago, noumpere said:

I don't think we really want to encourage that.

 

What age level was the play?  The umpires are learning, too.

 

Encourage?  No.

Expect?  Yes.

I learn every day, every game, and every class.  While I agree with that, there comes some point where we should have already learned.  Like @beerguy55, I'm assuming somebody who would use that terminology (right or wrong) has been around the block a few times.

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