Triple Play in Phillies/Cubs Game

[stkjock]

Wonder how many U-E members saw this play?

 

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=20478629

 

Thoughts on the calls for this play.   I have my own thought that I'll keep to myself for now.

[noumpere]

17 minutes ago, stkjock said:

Wonder how many saw this play?

 

If you include both "live" (in person and on TV) and replay, I'd say many millions.  You're welcome.

(I agree with the call.)

[maven]

Catch + 2 properly granted appeals = triple play. Correct calls.

[stkjock]

1 hour ago, noumpere said:

If you include both "live" (in person and on TV) and replay, I'd say many millions.  You're welcome.

(I agree with the call.)

thanks wise guy..

[Umpire in Chief]

I did not see that until now. But wow that was a hell of a great call on the initial catch. 

[siz]

Is it still a catch when he didn't transfer it cleanly?  

 

[Guest Den.]

J+R pg.26 D.(b)

"It is a catch if a fielder ... has complete control ... a fielder shows complete control by ... showing that his release of the ball is (or will be) voluntary and intentional".

[Jimurray]

37 minutes ago, siz said:

Is it still a catch when he didn't transfer it cleanly?  

 

They backed off the "meathook" interp a year or few ago. I think they actually did it mid season.

[stkjock]

So my thought upon first viewing was that can that be considered a voluntary release. 

[Senor Azul]

From the 2015 MLBUM (paragraph 65, p. 80):

The umpire should find that a legal catch has occurred pursuant to Definitions of Terms, “Catch,” or valid force out or tag has occurred pursuant to Definitions of Terms, “Tag,” if the fielder had complete control over the ball in his glove, and drops the ball after intentionally opening his glove to make the transfer to his throwing hand. A legal catch does not require that the fielder secure possession or control of the ball in his throwing hand when making the transfer.

[Senor Azul]

I forgot to add that Mr. Jimurray was right about the rule change. MLB changed the definition of catch a few weeks into the 2014 season. The new rule took effect the night of April 25, 2014.

[beerguy55]

18 hours ago, stkjock said:

So my thought upon first viewing was that can that be considered a voluntary release. 

It's very close IMO.  He comes up with the ball in glove...then he adjusts the glove (opens and closes it) to get the ball more securely in the pocket...then immediately after that he drops it on the attempt to transfer to his throwing hand.  I could understand it if an umpire ruled that he actually dropped the ball in the act of opening and closing the glove to secure it, but I believe he  did complete that act of securing the ball before dropping it.