OBS ... R2 stays at 3rd ....

[Thunderheads]

[noumpere]

Good use of "OBS" by the talking heads, and an emphatic point (honestly, probably too emphatic for my tastes) by U3.

[stkjock]

Jeff - you can tell that U3 called OBS by his mechanics?

[noumpere]

Jeff - you can tell that U3 called OBS by his mechanics?

Yes.

[stkjock]

Thank you

[Thunderheads]

Yes.

Yes

[maven]

Jeff - you can tell that U3 called OBS by his mechanics?

I'm not Jeff, but the mechanics show that the call is OBS, and not only that, we can tell which type of OBS.

He clearly called something. But he didn't kill it: had the call been INT or type A/1 OBS, the ball is immediately dead.

Then he points to the fielder who was guilty of the OBS. Then he placed R2 at 3B, the base that U3 judged R2 would have reached had there been no OBS.

That's the penalty for type B/2 OBS. Had the ruling been type A/1 OBS, the obstructed runner would have been advanced to the next base.

[stkjock]

Thanks for the added detail @maven really helps educate.

 

as a side question - if the effective call is nothing as far as the play happens, why call it?

Edited September 8, 2015 by stkjock

[Thunderheads]

Thanks for the added detail @maven really helps educate.

 

as a side question - if the effective call is nothing as far as the play happens, why call it?

Because you call it when you see it .... then award when the play is complete....always.  What if you see it, and IT DID TURN INTO SOMETHING.... then what? You award R2 home without letting everyone know you saw it?

[stkjock]

Because you call it when you see it .... then award when the play is complete....always.  What if you see it, and IT DID TURN INTO SOMETHING.... then what? You award R2 home without letting everyone know you saw it?

Thanks Jeff - after I posted I had that sort of thought as to the reasoning.  After re-watching the vid I also see now that the OBS call and the "penalty" indication were further a part than I recalled after watching it the first time.

[Mike Walsh]

Because you call it when you see it .... then award when the play is complete....always.  What if you see it, and IT DID TURN INTO SOMETHING.... then what? You award R2 home without letting everyone know you saw it?

Also, if you don't call it and the runners end up where they would have been anyway, you can still have coaches yelling at you that it was obstruction, or interference, and they'll want you to act. If you called it, you say I had it, coach, and he was protected to 3rd, where he ended up.

Mike

[kylejt]

It's a pretty textbook call. FIrst you've got fair/foul, Then you got OBS, and have to decide on a or b. Not easy, in real time. The award comes last, and you have to wait and calculate if that runner could have any chance for the plate. And I'd have no problem asking my partners for help on that, if the O manager requested it, as I'm watching the ball, and not so much the runner.

 

The only thing I do and teach (right or wrong) differently is I just my left hand to point OBS and INT, and leave my right hand for outs or awards. 

[MidAmUmp]

I was hoping someone would post this video. I was watching the game live and thought this would be a great teaching tool, but didn't know if the clip would end up anywhere. The night before, he had a play at the plate, and was in perfect position. If he would have taken the play from any other angle he probably would have kicked the call. He looked like $1,000,000.00.

[zoops]

In a youth game I'd probably lean towards giving the runner home on this play, but not at this level.  

I was hoping someone would post this video. I was watching the game live and thought this would be a great teaching tool, but didn't know if the clip would end up anywhere. The night before, he had a play at the plate, and was in perfect position. If he would have taken the play from any other angle he probably would have kicked the call. He looked like $1,000,000.00.

I've been told Cederstrom is retiring after this year - I guess he's going out on a high note!