No tag, no touch of homeplate, play is over, what's the call?

[heyoh]

Assuming MLB rules here, what's the ruling?  You can see the umpire never gives a signal.

 

Edit: Also, I know there's a rule for replay that says that the runner would be safe on review if it's determined that the catcher misses the tag but the runner never touched homeplate.  However, isn't that only for replays?

 

Edited August 21, 2015 by heyoh

[UmpireFever]

When play resumes the defense has the opportunity to appeal the runner missing home plate. If they fail to do so, the offensive run score for having "illegally" obtained the base. 

[maven]

When play resumes the defense has the opportunity to appeal the runner missing home plate. If they fail to do so, the offensive run score for having "illegally" obtained the base. 

I agree with your first statement.

The highlighted part is incorrect. The runner acquires the base by passing it, whether or not he touches it. The run scores because the runner acquired HP. If he fails to touch it, then it's a missed base, and he liable to be out on appeal, as you say.

Perhaps your scare quotes around "illegally" mean nothing more than this, but we should be clear that missing a base is not illegal in the same way that interference is.

And every one of these I see makes me glad MLB has banned collisions at the plate.

[JDavis225]

Remember that thread "keep officiating?" I think this could've fit in there. After the collision, I think he could've stepped in between the two to prevent it from escalating. Undoubtedly I think benches would have cleared either way but just an attempt at keeping it controlled would've been cool to see. 

[johnnyg08]

They haven't banned collisions have they?  Just that there's no point in colliding b/c you're going to be out anyway.  Is that right?  

[johnnyg08]

No chance in he-double hockey sticks am I getting anywhere near that mess.  No way.  If it were a police officer they'd be in the middle of a possible deadly force situation.  I have an indicator.  

[Kevin_K]

Love the "ohhhhhh... there's a problem here at Blue Suns Stadium!"

[Thunderheads]

R2 had plenty of plate to grab on this play, F2 was set up in front of the plate ....R2 went after him, no doubt.

just my .02

[maven]

After the collision, I think he could've stepped in between the two to prevent it from escalating. 

Isn't that Australia? They might have wanted a brawl. Might be required by rule in each game.

[noumpere]

Remember that thread "keep officiating?" I think this could've fit in there. After the collision, I think he could've stepped in between the two to prevent it from escalating. Undoubtedly I think benches would have cleared either way but just an attempt at keeping it controlled would've been cool to see. 

I agree -- if you can get in before it starts.  Once it starts (about the time the bench player "punched" F2) then you need to get away.

 

And, both the other umpires need to be coming in as well -- U3 gets to the 3rd base dugout and U1 gets to the first base dugout.  then it (more likely) just becomes a shouting match between the runner and F2, with F1 and the preceding runner looking on.

[basejester]

Isn't that Australia? They might have wanted a brawl. Might be required by rule in each game.

:-).

I'm not sure about that, but they do run the bases clockwise.  All the left-handed shortstops end up playing in Australia.

 

 

[DVA7130]

I think I love Australian baseball.

Just let that guy announce all the games.

[Mudisfun]

First thing I notice is that they actually make physical contact in their fights unlike our bench clearing brawls that bring a lot of dancing...