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  1. R1 has reached a new base, so his award is started from the base last legally acquired at the time of the throw. BR having not yet legally attained ANY base at the time of the throw is awarded the same two base award from time of throw which would be 1st and then 2nd. Seems odd, considering that prior to reaching 1st, the award for a TOP and TOT equates to the same thing, but them are the rules.
  2. The answers are correct, but look at the situation by taking the confusion of the uncaught pop up out of the equation. Bases loaded. Ball hit which was not caught in flight for an out. Runners are forced to advance, including R1. 2nd base was touched/tagged by defensive player with possession of the ball prior to R1 reaching 2nd base, OR R1 who is forced was tagged by a player with possession of the ball prior to achieving 2nd base for a force out. No run can score when the 3rd out is made on a force. Just connect the dots and sometimes the answer is easy to see when you remove the oddities of a somewhat broken play.
  3. Here is a decent video for balks -
  4. To top it off, this was a foul ball, not a caught ball which would necessitate the runner retouching. In that case, the ball would never be dead and the runner would actually be in jeopardy of being called out on appeal if he took off and was not retired. As others said, as long as he is in the vicinity of the base, most people are not going to pick on this one.
  5. Listening to the video, I would bet the call was drowned out by the crowd noise. Plus I would bet the defensive players on the field are also yelling 'I got it' loudly, or something similar adding to the confusion. 100% Eddings messed up, but so did the two base coaches who should know this is an IFF as well. R1's coach should have been yelling for him to stay on the base since he would have little to no chance to acquire 2nd base. As so eloquently stated in Full Metal Jacket after the surprise night attach on the marine base... 'This is a $h!t sandwich, and we're all going to have to take a bite.' No matter what the crew did here, someone was going to go bye bye. If they let the out at 2nd stand, then the Cubs manager is coming out to argue and leave early. If they fix it, which they should and did, then the other manager is going bye bye. No winners on this one with the errant initial call.
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    As others have said, this is nothing. The only way I might get in this middle of this is if R2 is on his knee retying his shoe... then I'm killing it since R2 is not even looking at what is going on and that is a safety issue. Other than that? Nope, not a thing.
  7. Not as sexy looking as the HSM, but what about a 2 piece like this? Have seen these in LL and those were NOCSAE approved (not positive the photo is a NOCSAE version). The mask can be pulled away from the face a little when removing the helmet.
  8. I have noting. F2 is set up to take the play properly, leaving plenty of room for R3 to acquire the base. F1 makes an awesome throw pulling F2 off the plate and suddenly and directly into R3's path. All I see is R3 doing the 'oh crap!' and trying not to kill F2... To me he just tried to stop anyway possible. You could try and make an argument for retired runner interference, but that to me would be a stretch and would be rewarding the defense for creating this scenario.
  9. Mudisfun

    Bases loaded

    You may also run into a ruling for an intentionally dropped ball if in the judgement of the umpire the fielder attempted to drop and then turn the double play. In this case, the ball is dead, the B/R is out and all runners return to their time of pitch base. In this scenario, nothing happens once the ball is intentionally dropped and time is called.
  10. Hell to the yes, to the yes, yes, yes. I VIVIDLY remember being a 12 year old playing LL majors. Our UIC, Jenny Ellison was working the plate and she took a foul direct to the throat. Thank God she was not seriously injured, but it took her out of the game as a precaution... considering I'm inching towards 50, and still recall this event with clarity, I never have questioned wearing or not wearing a guard.
  11. Truer words have never been spoken. A few years back there was 4-5 videos of a Huntington Beach Police Officer involved in a fight with a mentally unstable suspect. The fight started on their feet, went to the ground, and then back to their feet where the Officer ended up shooting and killing the suspect. The suspect, if I recall had gotten an item or items off the duty belt which made the officer fear for his life with the suspect now having weapons. 5 adults stood there and taped this, from beginning to end. Not a single one of them jumped in to help the officer, especially when the fight went to the ground. If one of these adults had helped subdue the combatant, A) he most likely would be alive today and B) The 20 something officer would not have to live the rest of his life knowing he was faced to shoot this unstable man.
  12. I'm ending the coaches participation right there. The optics to start with are horrible: 8-12 year old kids watching 2 grown men barking at each other through the fence, hurling obesities at each other. Parents and fans of said 8-12 year old kids watching this with a higher likelihood of also becoming participants in the above demonstration and thus having the whole thing spin out of control. Your job as defined in the rule book is to be the SOLE representative on the field of Little League International. (9.01(b)) If you are representing LL as an organization, how can you then allow the above to continue and not intervene? Sorry, but if your there to officiate the LL game, then the whole rule book comes with the job, not just the parts you want to enforce. As the umpire you have the following rule support to remove the coach, which in my opinion, should have occurred. 3.09 Players, managers and coaches of the participating teams shall not address, or mingle with spectators, nor sit in the stands during a game in which they are engaged.... 9.01(b) Each umpire is the representative of the league and Little League International, and is authorized and required to enforce all of these rules. Each umpire has authority to order a player, coach, manager or league officer to do, or refrain from doing anything which affects the administering of these rules and to enforce the prescribed penalties. (d) Each umpire has authority to disqualify any player, coach, manager or substitute for objecting to decisions or for unsportsmanlike conduct or language, and to eject such disqualified person from the playing field... Regulation XIV - a. The actions, on or off the field, of players, managers, coaches, umpires and league officials must be above reproach. Any player, manager, coach, umpire or league representative who is involved in a verbal or physical altercation, or an incident of unsportsmanlike conduct, at the game site or any other Little League activity including through online or social media, is subject to disciplinary action by the local Board of Directors.
  13. You got hosed! I did the same thing and the kids coach rung him up for a strike!
  14. Why would you not use the balloon? They are great... they provide better protection, including your arms, are cool since all you're wearing is a shirt and if worn correctly, provide all of the normal range of motion, including running, as you have with an inside protector. I try and use them whenever possible, especially lower levels where the battery and their ability to throw and catch is in serious question!
  15. Was slated to work a TB game on the varsity field which was scheduled to start at say 10am... there was another game on the JV field which started at 930. Well... someone forgot to turn off the sprinklers overnight (can you say Bull Durham?) and the field was completely unplayable. They expected me to wait for the game on the JV field to end (so what, 2, 2.5 hours?) and then work their game for the same $70. Told them no... they could pay me to sit in the lot and wait around, and then pay for the game OR I can call the assignor and see if he can find someone for them, but considering the last minute nature, that was doubtful. They actually chose to cancel and not play at all... Sucked losing out on the game fee, but no way was I sitting there for a couple hours just waiting for free. Had a HS coach call me to cancel as I was leaving the office to head out to their game. Seems they forgot to actually schedule the game with the other team, who obviously was not showing up since they knew nothing about the game! As the AD's office had confirmed the game was scheduled and they were the cause of the error, they paid me in full for the missed game, which was nice of them considering I had not left work yet to drive to the school. So basically... cash games in general, if you say play, you're paid (should have $$$ in hand already at the plate meeting). Assignor pay games the policy depends on the assignor and or their agreement with the league, but in my experience, cancellations are rare (So Cal weather is not normally an issue). HS, there is a policy in place depending on when the game cancels if you get paid at all, receive a 1/2 or full game fee. But again, in So Cal, cancellations at the last moment are rare.
  16. Had a run of the mill MC ejection the other night in our District All Stars game: Details of Ejections: Top of 5th inning, 1 out, bases loaded, game tied 4-4. Sea View player #XX became involved in a run down between 3rd and Home. As #XX was attempting to score, the catcher for HV (#YY), with possession of the ball tagged #XX for the 2nd out of the inning. As #XX was tagged, he lowered his shoulder and arms in a non-defensive manner and purposely created contact by driving his shoulder up and into the lower chin of HV player #YY. I immediately called time, declared #XX out as he was tagged prior to achieving home plate and the catcher retained possession of the ball, and ejected him from the game for his unsportsmanlike and dangerous conduct. Post Ejection: The game was delayed for approx. 5 minutes as HV player #YY was shaken up in the play. The umpire crew, along with the scorer and TD conferred to ensure all available players had met MPR and needed to determine the bench player who would be recalled from the bench for ejected player #XX. After the delay, the game resumed with no further issues.
  17. One of my female co-workers thought on the subject: this was MLB's way of trying to increase the female viewing demographic.
  18. I especially liked how Max was about to drop trowel right there on the mound; that would have been classic and set the new standard for 'inspections'.
  19. This made me chuckle... Did a game in Newport Beach a few weeks back. One team had two coaches, the other had more coaches than players. Don't know what they were there for; maybe to go grab coffee as needed?
  20. Correct. The fourth coach was to be there to help with covid protocols, sanitizing, etc... We only had three total four both teams, so number of coaches was not an issue.
  21. We have had a few ejections this year... After a five year drought. Our HS unit had a few instances of parents going after umpires in the parking lot this year. Age of the players does not mean the fans or coaches will behave better.
  22. I'm the league UIC and in this game, I am just a parent cheering his daughters team on... Top of 6, 2 out, 2-2 game, R2/R3. Foul tip... catcher lazily throws the ball back to F1 thinking this is a foul ball. F1, head down and not paying attention walks back to the mound, R3 being a little more heads up takes off for home. Simi close play at home, but R3 is safe, visitors go up 3-2. Home team assistant coach starts screaming at VTHC who is in the 3rd base box that this was bush league, yadda, yadda, yadda. Our coach and the VTHC start getting into a heated yelling match, and coming together, they start posturing and escalating. PU is trying to break up this horrific display in front of 20+ kids who are just dumb founded. Both VTHC and our coach get dumped. Lot's of commotion on the field, and somehow our other coach (manager is still keeping it together and acting like an adult) is roughly 1/2 way down the first base line getting into it with U1 when he gets dumped by U1. PU/U1 get the 3 coaches heading towards the exit and myself and a couple other BOD folks are heading that way as well to ensure they keep the peace. One gets our first coach and escorts him to the lot while I see another manager taking the VTHC to center field. I wander over there and tell them no, he has to leave. I walk the VTHC out to the lot and keep him and coach 1 apart. In all the fray, our 2nd coach who got dumped somehow meanders back to the field where on a play at first, he starts yelling at U1 from outside the fence. Noticing that this coach had already been ejected, U1 called time and put all of the players in the dugout until another BOD member got to the field to remove this coach. Game continued fine after that with the visitors winning 3-2. So for the district tournament, both of these teams lose their coaches... VT loses their manager and my kids team loses 2 coaches. I can honestly say I was proud of my umpire brothers for handling their business promptly and correctly. I am beyond saddened for the kids, and it broke my heart when my 11 YO daughter was in the lot sobbing along with some other kids because of the actions of these 'adults'. I am embarrassed for our league due to the actions of these individuals. Just another day on the youth baseball circus train.
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