Cards walk off on take out slide

[woodiemiller]

 Interesting play for discussion. Legal in OBR, FPSR in FED. NCAA? 

​NOT legal under NCAA because if runner slides, he must slide directly to the base. Clearly the Cardinals runner did not.

[DevildogUmp]

Yes. It's not what contacts the fielder, it's where the contact is in relation to the base.

​ I don't agree with that based on the play. The runner slides directly to the plate (no where in the rule does it say what part of the plate/base a runner must slide to) and makes contact with out sliding through or making an illegal slide (pop up into defense). If you have a short stop coming across 2nd and doesn't clear and stays directly between 2nd and 1st are you going to call FPSR when the runner makes contact on a legal slide?

Or am I just completely off base?

[Richvee]

​NOT legal under NCAA because if runner slides, he must slide directly to the base. Clearly the Cardinals runner did not.

​I do not do college so I'm not very proficient with NCAA rules. That's why I asked. Thanks

[Dbellyflop]

https://youtu.be/Grnzyiw_xR0

NCAA 2015 video bulletin , talks about FSPR at about the 1:30 mark.......

[noumpere]

​ I don't agree with that based on the play. The runner slides directly to the plate (no where in the rule does it say what part of the plate/base a runner must slide to) and makes contact with out sliding through or making an illegal slide (pop up into defense). If you have a short stop coming across 2nd and doesn't clear and stays directly between 2nd and 1st are you going to call FPSR when the runner makes contact on a legal slide?

Or am I just completely off base?

​I ca;t rewatch the video but "directly to the plate" means feet, arms, legs, torso, etc in a straight line from 3rd to home.  As I recall, the contact happened where F2 had stepped in front of the plate / toward first to make the throw.  That's not directly to the base.

[umpstu]

​Why?  What did they ever do to you? ;-)

 

​The old wait til next year.

[Replacematt]

​ I don't agree with that based on the play. The runner slides directly to the plate (no where in the rule does it say what part of the plate/base a runner must slide to) and makes contact with out sliding through or making an illegal slide (pop up into defense). If you have a short stop coming across 2nd and doesn't clear and stays directly between 2nd and 1st are you going to call FPSR when the runner makes contact on a legal slide?

Or am I just completely off base?

​Yes, you are...and so was F2, which is why this contact would be illegal in FED and NCAA.

[clasonater]

Rich,

That's definitely two on a FPSR violation in FED, and I'm getting 2 in NCAA as well. Unless I am totally confused F2 is in a protected area by rule as F4 and F6 are at 2B.

In NCAA you will probably be writing reports if you make the call, but that looks obvious to me.

 

​This would be worth the reports