ya gotta love the dead ball appeal in HS !!

[GoodOldGus]

You have to call what you see.  Don't go looking for "the dirty end of the stick", but it's our job to make the calls.  A local softball team lost a sectional tournament game and a trip to the state tournament on this exact call a few years back.  Girl hits a walk off home run and but doesn't touch the plate, defense appealed and the umpire called her out....game over. 

[johnnyg08]

You have to call what you see.  Don't go looking for "the dirty end of the stick", but it's our job to make the calls.  A local softball team lost a sectional tournament game and a trip to the state tournament on this exact call a few years back.  Girl hits a walk off home run and but doesn't touch the plate, defense appealed and the umpire called her out....game over. 

 

 

Yep, I'm with you.  If I'm 100% sure on a missed base, I have no issue calling him/her/whomever out on appeal.  Follow the rules.  

 

I see it way more often than it is ever appealed.  

[Magic]

You have to call what you see.  Don't go looking for "the dirty end of the stick", but it's our job to make the calls.  A local softball team lost a sectional tournament game and a trip to the state tournament on this exact call a few years back.  Girl hits a walk off home run and but doesn't touch the plate, defense appealed and the umpire called her out....game over. 

 

 

Yep, I'm with you.  If I'm 100% sure on a missed base, I have no issue calling him/her/whomever out on appeal.  Follow the rules.  

 

I see it way more often than it is ever appealed.  

 

I agree with that. I see probably 7-10 for every 1 that is appealed. Now on the  other end, I get appeal requests all the time when it is not even close. But that is more on tag ups than anything else.

[soapbox]

I did a FP SB Tournament and had a bases loaded walk where R3 never touched.  I saw it as well as an opposing player on the bench.  She told the coach to appeal and I made the out call.  Wasn't fun, but was the right call.

[BalkHawk]

R3, no out, 12u no-headfirst-slide league. Base hit to right field. R3 jogs home and slides, headfirst, across the plate. Ball is still making its way in from the outfield.

This happened to me last week, whadda YOU got?

[Richvee]

R3, no out, 12u no-headfirst-slide league. Base hit to right field. R3 jogs home and slides, headfirst, across the plate. Ball is still making its way in from the outfield.

This happened to me last week, whadda YOU got?

I think you have to bang him out. No head first slides does not say no head first slides when there's a play being made on the runner. 

[Jocko]

R3, no out, 12u no-headfirst-slide league. Base hit to right field. R3 jogs home and slides, headfirst, across the plate. Ball is still making its way in from the outfield.This happened to me last week, whadda YOU got?

Honestly, I'm not sure how I would call it. If noone else said anything, I might let it go. I'm not talking about for the sake of the kids and sentimentality and all that. Just think I might let it go if DT HC doesn't pitch a fit. Maybe.

Now watch, it'll happen 3 times to me this weekend.

[grayhawk]

R3, no out, 12u no-headfirst-slide league. Base hit to right field. R3 jogs home and slides, headfirst, across the plate. Ball is still making its way in from the outfield.

This happened to me last week, whadda YOU got?

 

This exact scenario happened when I was on the plate at CDP (they have a no head first slide rule at home).  Called him out and his coach looked at me and simply said, "Head first slide?"  I nodded and that was the end of it.

[yawetag]

R3, no out, 12u no-headfirst-slide league. Base hit to right field. R3 jogs home and slides, headfirst, across the plate. Ball is still making its way in from the outfield.

This happened to me last week, whadda YOU got?

 

Sounds like he tripped onto his belly and started to slide after touching the plate. I got a score.

[scrounge]

R3, no out, 12u no-headfirst-slide league. Base hit to right field. R3 jogs home and slides, headfirst, across the plate. Ball is still making its way in from the outfield.

This happened to me last week, whadda YOU got?

 

If I thought that he was in any way hotdogging it or playing it up, not only would I bang him out, I'd do so with a smile on my internal face.

 

In any case, I'd prob call it. Slide rules specifically designed to avoid head trauma aren't ones that I think I'd want to let go...because the next time the kid does it, there might be a catcher there. Yea, yea, yea, real baseball and all...they'll get that right later, when they're older in other leagues. Not just yet, kid, not just yet.

 

Bang him out now, and the entire team probably never forgets the no-head-first slide rule.

[Richvee]

R3, no out, 12u no-headfirst-slide league. Base hit to right field. R3 jogs home and slides, headfirst, across the plate. Ball is still making its way in from the outfield.This happened to me last week, whadda YOU got?

Honestly, I'm not sure how I would call it. If noone else said anything, I might let it go. I'm not talking about for the sake of the kids and sentimentality and all that. Just think I might let it go if DT HC doesn't pitch a fit. Maybe.

Now watch, it'll happen 3 times to me this weekend.

I'd rather call him out, than have the DC come out and say, "Hey Blue, head first slide, No?" Then I have to say "Oh yeah, out!". 

[mstaylor]

I don't understand why a kid missing a base/plate that is obvious enough for the defense to notice, because usually that means someone on the bench, is a hard call. If it is close enough that there is doubt, he touched. I have to know he missed, I am not guessing he missed. 

[Jocko]

R3, no out, 12u no-headfirst-slide league. Base hit to right field. R3 jogs home and slides, headfirst, across the plate. Ball is still making its way in from the outfield.This happened to me last week, whadda YOU got?

Honestly, I'm not sure how I would call it. If noone else said anything, I might let it go. I'm not talking about for the sake of the kids and sentimentality and all that. Just think I might let it go if DT HC doesn't pitch a fit. Maybe. :shrug:Now watch, it'll happen 3 times to me this weekend.I'd rather call him out, than have the DC come out and say, "Hey Blue, head first slide, No?" Then I have to say "Oh yeah, out!". had this happen before. After the play, DTHC comes and mentions head first rule. I walked calmly and spoke quietly with OTHC and informed him his player was out for HFS rule. Let HIM eat the sh*t sandwich.

[JaxRolo]

I don't understand why a kid missing a base/plate that is obvious enough for the defense to notice, because usually that means someone on the bench, is a hard call. If it is close enough that there is doubt, he touched. I have to know he missed, I am not guessing he missed.

I agree.

I also know of teams that have assigned spotters that look for missed bases, pulled foot, and other stuff.

[Onecheekycanuk]

Blue you made the right call. 100 percent. Rules are rules.youdont have to like them you just have to enforce them.

[mstaylor]

I don't understand why a kid missing a base/plate that is obvious enough for the defense to notice, because usually that means someone on the bench, is a hard call. If it is close enough that there is doubt, he touched. I have to know he missed, I am not guessing he missed.

I agree.

I also know of teams that have assigned spotters that look for missed bases, pulled foot, and other stuff.

That was standard in old school baseball. Unfortunately most do not have spotters anymore. I see tons of missed bases that are never questioned.