Obstruction on BR @ 1st

[guyinaredhat]

No one on, no outs, I'm working the Plate and  I have a partner on bases.  Chopper to the right side and the first baseman has to go to his right to field the ball taking him away from the bag.   The pitcher comes over to cover , but the 1st baseman decides he's going to take the play  by himself.   In the process the pitcher obstructs  the BR before he reaches first and then the 1b steps  on the bag before the br. 

 

My question is as PU would you call obstructon immediatly? or would you wait and get together?  The BU did not call anything but an out, and had the Offensive manager question him. 

[Guest]

See it, call it.

[jmpnjmy]

See it, call it.

+1

[JaxRolo]

Call it!

[BalkHawk]

I say, call it, like you would a running-lane violation.

[BRUMP]

Depends on the rule set. In fed it is a Ddb. In OBR it is type a OBS because the OBS occurred on the BR before he touched first.

[johnnyg08]

Depends on the rule set. In fed it is a Ddb. In OBR it is type a OBS because the OBS occurred on the BR before he touched first.

 

 

I think the OBR is the same as NCAA.  There was a version of this scenario on the NCAA test this year. 

[grayhawk]

Depends on the rule set. In fed it is a Ddb. In OBR it is type a OBS because the OBS occurred on the BR before he touched first.

 

You still need to point out and call the obstruction immediately in Fed. You just wait to call time until the play is over. Then award the BR first base.

[renegadewolf]

With no one on, you are following that runner up the first base line to watch for those very types of things, so if you are going to make an effort to go up the line to watch for things like int. and obs. then it makes sense to call it.  I'm always of the mind better to call it when it happens than wait, just makes you seem more competent

[jjskitours]

Depends on the rule set. In fed it is a Ddb. In OBR it is type a OBS because the OBS occurred on the BR before he touched first.

 

You still need to point out and call the obstruction immediately in Fed. You just wait to call time until the play is over. Then award the BR first base.

With the current year deletion of the Fed obstruction signal (left arm extended horizontal), and the Fed's explanation, I didn't read anything that indicated the Pro (and I think NCAA) mechanic where you would point and call obstruction. Actually our State interpreter gave his annual update and although he didn't say not to do the point and call mechanic, he simply stated that all you do now is wait until the play is over and then call Time and make the appropriate award. I assume the coaches and in particular the DC will ask for an explanation. Has this change been discussed within your associations or at the State level. Personally, I like the point and call it mechanic.

[UmpJM]

Point and call it.

 

JM

[Richvee]

 

Depends on the rule set. In fed it is a Ddb. In OBR it is type a OBS because the OBS occurred on the BR before he touched first.

 

You still need to point out and call the obstruction immediately in Fed. You just wait to call time until the play is over. Then award the BR first base.

With the current year deletion of the Fed obstruction signal (left arm extended horizontal), and the Fed's explanation, I didn't read anything that indicated the Pro (and I think NCAA) mechanic where you would point and call obstruction. Actually our State interpreter gave his annual update and although he didn't say not to do the point and call mechanic, he simply stated that all you do now is wait until the play is over and then call Time and make the appropriate award. I assume the coaches and in particular the DC will ask for an explanation. Has this change been discussed within your associations or at the State level. Personally, I like the point and call it mechanic.

I had an association meeting last week and the state interpreter was there. During his presentation when he told us the dead ball signal was gone, I asked how they would like OBS to be called. In no uncertain terms, the answer was "POINT and CALL it" 

[johnnyg08]

Agree. Point and call it.

[noumpere]

Its like some people wouldnt know to wipe themselves after taking a dump if it wasnt written in the manual.

 

yes, point and call it.  Which you should have been doing before even when it was followed by the delayed dead ball signal.

[umpstu]

 

Depends on the rule set. In fed it is a Ddb. In OBR it is type a OBS because the OBS occurred on the BR before he touched first.

 

You still need to point out and call the obstruction immediately in Fed. You just wait to call time until the play is over. Then award the BR first base.

With the current year deletion of the Fed obstruction signal (left arm extended horizontal), and the Fed's explanation, I didn't read anything that indicated the Pro (and I think NCAA) mechanic where you would point and call obstruction. Actually our State interpreter gave his annual update and although he didn't say not to do the point and call mechanic, he simply stated that all you do now is wait until the play is over and then call Time and make the appropriate award. I assume the coaches and in particular the DC will ask for an explanation. Has this change been discussed within your associations or at the State level. Personally, I like the point and call it mechanic.

Just because it is a delayed dead ball doesn't mean you don't call obstruction right away. Absolutely you point and call it right away, protect the runner to where you feel he would have got had there been no obstruction. In this case, first base. 

[BalkHawk]

Its like some people wouldnt know to wipe themselves after taking a dump if it wasnt written in the manual.

yes, point and call it. Which you should have been doing before even when it was followed by the delayed dead ball signal.

with which hand should one wipe?

[Jocko]

Its like some people wouldnt know to wipe themselves after taking a dump if it wasnt written in the manual.yes, point and call it. Which you should have been doing before even when it was followed by the delayed dead ball signal.

with which hand should one wipe?back to front, front to back..... I need instruction. Can't find it in any of my manuals. HELP!!!

[NFUA_44]

Jocko, check with your partner. I believe the proper rotation is in "The Two Umpire System"