Drug policy?

[Andree]

I am going to be attending Evans pro academy this Jan and was curious if they did any type of drug testing as I like to smoke a little mj here and there. I don't need any lectures just some answers :-) Thanks!

[Andree]

I am going to be attending Evans pro academy this Jan and was curious if they did any type of drug testing as I like to smoke a little mj here and there. I don't need any lectures just some answers :-) Thanks!

[Astrosdawg07]

Well if you were to make it you would fall under MiLB's drug testing policy! Just a thought to keep in mind.

[semper_fi_72]

Another thought to keep in mind, you just admitted your use to the world on the World Wide Web which can come up in search engines.

[Andree]

That's what I thought too Chesnut, but I could not find anything on the minor league drug policy, only the MLB policy, and it states the tests are between players and the commissioner of baseball, nothing about umpires. I'm not saying your wrong but haven't found any real answers what so ever

Semper thanks for lookin out man but I used a fake name and zero personal info when making this profile. :2cents:

Edited December 7, 2010 by Andree

[JamesC]

Interesting...

[JaxRolo]

All I can say is WOW! :clap:

[Thunderheads]

I am going to be attending Evans pro academy this Jan and was curious if they did any type of drug testing as I like to smoke a little mj here and there. I don't need any lectures just some answers :-) Thanks!

:2cents:

[dumbdumb]

Sorry but this question defies reason IMHO, especially since it has been posted in 2 areas on this forum.

If you are going for a "job", you got to be kidding me, and if you are not going for a job, then you can just keep doing what you are doing.

Who cares what the policy is at the MLB level or the MiLB level. Just don't do anything that is illegal. If you do you will face the consequences.

I would assume if you get offered a job, your background will be vetted by some type of MLB or MiLB security. They may personally ask if you have ever used drugs, if that is a legal question to ask. If you say no, you are lying and that could result in not being employed or used against you later if you get in trouble. Even if that is not a legal question, why would anyone want to risk their job. Oh well, it has probably happened.

Ueberroth introduced an minor league policy back in 86 from what I can find on the net for players and minor league personel and of course umpires probably came under that umbrella.

You will have to get some MiLB guys to weigh in on this about what goes on now, especially just a couple years ago versus now, since they have formed a union. It would sure seem there is some type of policy in effect for all MiLB including umpires.

MJ stays in the system longer than many other drugs, frequent users (whatever frequent is) will still test positive on a test from 6 months to 1 year. Other drugs flush quicker, but I am not condoning any drug use whatever.

If you want a job, quit now would be my advice and quit trying to find out what the technical policy is or where it is.

[Umpire in Chief]

I honestly do not think they do testing at the schools, but I'd be prepared if I got the invite to PBUC.

Also, a former MiLB friend explained to me he felt they were looking for reasons to get rid of people, don't give them the slightest of reason.

[Umpire in Chief]

Andree, its been said here before that the instructors do visit these sites and I know for a fact there is at least one JEAPU instructor who visits here if not regularly, frequently enough that will probably read this before or even while you're there.

Now they will know they have a potential student going for a job who they would otherwise not put their JEAPU name on when sending to PBUC. So lets say this years class is along the lines of the typical 120 students. 1/2 are going for jobs. So they are able to narrow it down a bit. But you have made it more difficult on those guys who are making a go for it IMO as each one will be under increased scrutinity.

[mstaylor]

This is not a lecture, simply an observation. If you can't go five weeks without paretaking then you have a problem and pro school is not for you. I doubt very many that are looking for jobs will have time to drink either, too much studying and practicing mechanics to worry about partying. If you are going to spend the money to go to a pro school then keep your head on straight and make the most of it.

[kylejt]

Semper thanks for lookin out man but I used a fake name and zero personal info when making this profile.

Take it from me, as I do this for a living. You can be traced back to the chair you're sitting in once you fire up your machine. Fake names don't help. If someone needs to know who posted what, it's not that hard to find out where you are. Once you hook up to Al Gore's Internet, you fail to become anonymous. Everything you type, and everything on your hard drive is out there in the public domain. Go about you business with this in mind, and you'll stay out of trouble.

More and more companies are doing background checks on social networks too. Some police departments want your Facebook password when you apply for a gig. All your tweets and IMs are out there to be read by all. Oh yeah, and you can't bring it back.

I know that paranoia increases with smoking the hippie lettuce, so just understand, you're being watched.

[soapbox]

If anybody thinks that Big Brother will be hunting a MJ toker on the baseball forum in some sting operation, then I believe they are Super Paranoid, and may be MJ tokers themselves.

[Umpire in Chief]

@ gherman I don't think Big brother is watching or cares enough about an individuals use. In this case we have a prospective employer or as the case may be an entity which does have basically the only input as to if you get a shot to PBUC which does visit this site and to be on the lookout is a completely different story.

[kcfan102]

Seriously?

[soapbox]

I'm just kidding around. Not something someone should neccessarily put in print, but I'm sure he's not the first umpire to smoke. Maybe to post. As far as MLB, I'm sure there is a higher rate of players that smoke than umpires.

[semper_fi_72]

One other item that comes to mind about Umpiring and Integrity.

I don't believe a Umpire should only have Integrity on the field but also needs to have it off the field.

Doing something that is Illegal cuts into the Integrity of not only that Umpire but all Umpires.

Last May we had a umpire in one of my associations arrested for possession.

Needless to say he can not find a game to work and is no longer a member of the association.

Perhaps you should try to get a refund and not attend JEA.

[jjb]

We dropped an umpire 2 years ago for the same thing. We're an Amateur Baseball Association. What shot do you think you'd have with Professionals?

Lou's right: we survive on Integrity. Call Jim, and see if you can get your money back.

[dumbdumb]

Number 1, without a MiLB person who knows the policy to weigh in here, it would be hard to know the exact specifics of the drug policy. That being said, it is better if anyone still involved at the professional level, stay off the forums as far as commenting on anything, period, while they are still in the game. If someone who has just been dismissed would like to come on here and explain it all, then we would actually know what the policy is now.

Let's remember, baseball has been all over the papers with performance enhancing drugs recently, while the coke and mj was all the rage back with Dwight Gooden, etc. So now, both types of drugs are being tested for and this type of thing can only get you in trouble.

Personally, if I had used mj or anything else during any part of 2010, I would get off that substance for a full year before going to the umpire school for a "job". That way, should you be asked any questions by anyone connected to baseball, you could truthfully answer that you did do some mj but were not addicted and decided to quit over a year ago when you decided to settle down and go for a job as a MiLB umpire. Also, if they are OK with you now on the straight and narrow and should you go to a rookie league and they do test you that first week of the season, there should be no trace of the substance in your body, and they would know you had been off the junk.

Nobody needs to deal with this type of stuff on the umpiring side of things. They do not need to be rehabbing umpires with this type of problem. There are plenty of umpires to chose from that would not put them in this type of position to begin with.

To end with a little bit of humor rather than lecture.

If you need to get a load on, go buy a keg, go to your room, lie down underneath the spout and let er rip. If you need to get a load off, go to the bunny ranch in Nevada.

[kcfan102]

One other item that comes to mind about Umpiring and Integrity.

I don't believe a Umpire should only have Integrity on the field but also needs to have it off the field.

Doing something that is Illegal cuts into the Integrity of not only that Umpire but all Umpires.

Last May we had a umpire in one of my associations arrested for possession.

Needless to say he can not find a game to work and is no longer a member of the association.

Perhaps you should try to get a refund and not attend JEA.

+1

I think someone said this earlier, MiLB looks for reasons to get rid of guys. You should probably make sure the you have your off the field life in order before you begin to start one on the field.

[yawetag]

More and more companies are doing background checks on social networks too.

I use it in my job to link employees together. It's rather fun sometimes.