ASKING FOR HELP

[dumbdumb]

If I think there might have been a pulled foot, or a swipe tag or something, I have no qualms about asking for help. Often, I will initiate the appeal myself if I was blocked or not positive of the play. After I make the call that is. I'm in "C". F6 throw pulls F3, but I see his foot get back down. Not positive if he was in contact with the bag. I bang the out and immediately get with HP to see what he thought. He tells me F3 pulled. I signal the pull and subsequent safe. My 1st priority is getting the call right. On the other hand, if I know what I saw, then I know what I saw. It's not an ego thing with me. I'd rather the outcome be correct. Subsequently, I don't entertain the HC that wants an appeal on every call. I have 2b no matter what. If I kick it, I own it. No way am I dragging my partner down with me.

My first priority is getting the best look at the call and then making the call. And then when the coach asks me to shop the call he didn't like to my partner, I tell him that I've already (1) worked hard to get a look and (2) made the right call.

I have asked a partner for help twice in 25 years. On one, an F4 ran right in front of me as the play happened at first and I saw my partner in position to see it. On the other, I got lazy on a comebacker and didn't get in position and F1 shorthopped F3 and I had no clue whether F3 fielded it clean, so I asked. Both were in the last decade.

I am *always* there to help a partner if he asks me, but I am unlikely to ask myself and neither are my regular partners. Many times when someone ends up asking, it's because the footwork before the call didn't put them in the right position to see the play themselves.

It's not an ego thing -- I really feel much of this "asking for help" would disappear if base umpires (in general) worked harder to get the right angle on the play at first base. And realized that most coaches ask because they're hoping for a reversed call, not because they honestly, in their heart of hearts, think you missed it.

"It's not an ego thing -- I really feel much of this "asking for help" would disappear if base umpires (in general) worked harder to get the right angle on the play at first base. And realized that most coaches ask because they're hoping for a reversed call, not because they honestly, in their heart of hearts, think you missed it."

Does this mean they are "working" you??????? and it """is"""" working on many umpires although not you??????

[RichMSN]

If I think there might have been a pulled foot, or a swipe tag or something, I have no qualms about asking for help. Often, I will initiate the appeal myself if I was blocked or not positive of the play. After I make the call that is. I'm in "C". F6 throw pulls F3, but I see his foot get back down. Not positive if he was in contact with the bag. I bang the out and immediately get with HP to see what he thought. He tells me F3 pulled. I signal the pull and subsequent safe. My 1st priority is getting the call right. On the other hand, if I know what I saw, then I know what I saw. It's not an ego thing with me. I'd rather the outcome be correct. Subsequently, I don't entertain the HC that wants an appeal on every call. I have 2b no matter what. If I kick it, I own it. No way am I dragging my partner down with me.

My first priority is getting the best look at the call and then making the call. And then when the coach asks me to shop the call he didn't like to my partner, I tell him that I've already (1) worked hard to get a look and (2) made the right call.

I have asked a partner for help twice in 25 years. On one, an F4 ran right in front of me as the play happened at first and I saw my partner in position to see it. On the other, I got lazy on a comebacker and didn't get in position and F1 shorthopped F3 and I had no clue whether F3 fielded it clean, so I asked. Both were in the last decade.

I am *always* there to help a partner if he asks me, but I am unlikely to ask myself and neither are my regular partners. Many times when someone ends up asking, it's because the footwork before the call didn't put them in the right position to see the play themselves.

It's not an ego thing -- I really feel much of this "asking for help" would disappear if base umpires (in general) worked harder to get the right angle on the play at first base. And realized that most coaches ask because they're hoping for a reversed call, not because they honestly, in their heart of hearts, think you missed it.

"It's not an ego thing -- I really feel much of this "asking for help" would disappear if base umpires (in general) worked harder to get the right angle on the play at first base. And realized that most coaches ask because they're hoping for a reversed call, not because they honestly, in their heart of hearts, think you missed it."

Does this mean they are "working" you??????? and it """is"""" working on many umpires although not you??????

I believe they are doing what my 7-year-old daughter does. If she doesn't like what Daddy says, she wants to go ask Mommy and hope for a different answer.

[mstaylor]

The other night a buddy of mine was on the bases in a FP playoff game. He was all over a slide at third, he calls her out. The third base coach asked if he could check with the PU. He looked at him and very matter of factly said," Absolutely not!" The manager replied, OK and walked away.

I tend to tell them it's my call, I made it, I'm keeping it.